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  This really sucks…Living a double life for the sake of family...

  by tooktheredpill in

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  guys: i just need to vent a little.

  as you may know, ive been working for a couple of months, trying to make my wife think by herself.

  she started to do it, and i noticed it when she started arguing with her parents about some wt policies some weeks ago.

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  lesterd

  Careful. It might be a trap to catch you in your disbelief
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  Asked a deep question to my father last night

  by Alex Delta in

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  im in bed trying to get shut eye and just cant because of this repeating question that i have in my head.

  i know what the answer is to the question, but i need to hear it from the horses mouth.

  so in my 30th hour of being awake i get the courage to dial 411 and call my father whos an elder that i havent spoken to for 10 years.

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  What unforgiveable sin did you commit to separate yourself from them, the borg? Many of us got out because of the lack of empathy and forgiveness, which should have made us better than they, and willing to forgive them for their lack. Your real question was; would you be willing to compromise that self rightious belief for the real family love Jehovah gave, that no man can take away.
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  Firm and determined in this time of the end!

  by dawg in

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  remember that song, the thousands of examples of good jws standing up to the secular authorities?

  we used to sing it "herman's determined" lol!.

  i've been a member on this site for almost a year, why is it we allow our loved ones to keep us from taking a stand?

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  It was never Jehovah that the borg taught us to depend on, through their constant teaching they taught us to be co-dependant, making it hard to let go of the thing that hurts us. Just like an abused child, we begin to think that the abuse is love, and we deserve it.
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  jwd confusion in relationship... help

  by jocettejane in

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  i'm having a difficult time with my recently announced fiance.

  he happens to be a jwd.

  i am not, nore ever have been.

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  lesterd

  You are learning how far reaching the mind control of the WT is. It was sound down into his very being and it conflicts, many times unknown to himself, your education into what he learned will be a great help in understanding and unwraveling the web of lies he has been taught
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  Elder asks me why we quit... (Long)

  by Odrade in

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  in this thread i mentioned having a long chat with an elder last summer.

  i didn't realize i had never posted the story, so here it is.. last summer (when i went to buy my new camera lens) i ran into one of my favorite jws at the photography shop.

  he was buying a camera bag for his new dslr, and i saw him, went up and greeted him, hugged him.

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  I love your point of beating a child every day for a year. When we are IN the borg our thinking ablities are soooo narrowed that, in striking a match we dont see the fire or feel the heat, the JW mind is shut off after their first dictated action. I still feel the stripes of years of abuse by the hand of the org

  Thanks
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  let's talk about Holy Communion and the WTS "non-communion"

  by potentialJWconvertswife in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here's the question: why do the whole memorial thing if (i'm assuming) there will be few or (in most cases) no one actually taking the sacrament?

  and what reason does the wts give for saying only anointed can partake?

  are there any examples of the disciples administering holy communion to any regular folks?

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  The must be a reason that the "holy fathers consider this a spurious.

  The Didache (Koine Greek: ??da?? , Didache, meaning "Teaching" [1] ; IPA: /'d?d?ki?/ in English, IPA: [ðiða'xi] in Modern Greek) is the common name of a brief early Christiantreatise (dated by most scholars to the early second century), [2] containing instructions for Christian communities. The text, parts of which may have constituted the first written catechism, has three main sections dealing with Christian lessons, rituals such as baptism and eucharist, and Church organization. It was considered by some of the Church Fathers as part of the New Testament [3] but rejected as spurious or non-canonical by others, [4] eventually not accepted into the New Testament canon with the exception of the Ethiopian Orthodox Church "broader canon". The Roman Catholic Church has accepted it as part of the collection of Apostolic Fathers.
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  You all have helped so much with the Mom Issue...So here is issue #2

  by KICKED OUT in

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  i have really felt a weight off my shoulders since bringing up my first story yesterday, so i would like to tell another story of my life, if for no other reason than to finally talk about it.

  once again sugesstions on how to deal with this trauma is much needed.

  i was dfd at 13 for the first time.

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  I can relate to the welts, I was in the office at school more than once for not dressing for PE because I was too embarassed to take offf my shirt because of the welts, back then it was OK to leave marks on you kids.

  At bood study I was supposed to memorize the 66 books of the Bible, I messed up and we left immediatly, we lived a block away and my mom picked up the first thing she could find and started in, when we got home she notice that the stick had a nail in it imagen what my back looked like.
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  let's talk about Holy Communion and the WTS "non-communion"

  by potentialJWconvertswife in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here's the question: why do the whole memorial thing if (i'm assuming) there will be few or (in most cases) no one actually taking the sacrament?

  and what reason does the wts give for saying only anointed can partake?

  are there any examples of the disciples administering holy communion to any regular folks?

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  "Holy coommunion" can you show me that in the Bible? Or is it a all the lemings ran off the cliff so that makes it right?

  I dissagree with the borgs motive for the memorial, there are those of us who are participants and its done behind closed doors, with two or more present in his name.
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  Partaking of the emblems at home - need thoughts/experiences please

  by wildfell in

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  my husband and i will be partaking at home this year.

  could you please share your experiences or insights on how you partook at home?

  i have the wine and bread sorted.

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  lesterd

  There are two lines of recorder thought on wheather Judas partook or not, its personal like all other aspects of ones religion, personal beliefs, those are to be shared not imposed as law. Jesus followed the yearly passover, of which he was the fullfillment and it was done yearly, from his own lips he said to do THIS, (yearly observence) in rememberence of him, once a year is enough for me. Sharing in his blood and flesh once again is personal and the pomp and ceremony created around it by 2000 years of pagan emblishment for showmanship's sake, for me, is unnecessary. The purity of actions and thought are what demonstrats that we are in union with him at this time of remembrance. KISS, the last S is for, "sweetheart".
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  Need some advice

  by KICKED OUT in

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  i have not been on here in a long time but i have always valued the advice of everyone, so here goes.....i am dfd and my wife has never been a part of the org.

  we are getting ready to have our first child in may.

  my mother who is now living in patterson(at one of the motherships) speaks to me every 1 to 2 years.

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  lesterd

  Transference, thats the word for it..the nature love that she took away from you is now going to be poured out on you child, it is complicated, because it becomes a matter of choices on your part. Depending on where your head and heart are, you can hope the forgiveness you would show her in letting her help with the baby would open her eyes as to what she is doing to you, if it is only a ploy to make your child a new convert, then I would say no. If she can't love her son whom she can see, how can she love Jehovah who she can't? Who has the greater love, you or her? If we wanted to apply what Christ said about causing divison in families then divorce to an unbleiving mate would be advocated, it is not. Those divison are mentioned with all the signs of the time of the end, thats when families will split because of beliefs, and no one knows that time but Jehovah. The preumptousness of the WTS to divide families places a huge blood guilt on them. Our hearts tell us what our God expects on us as individuals, just as an earthly father expects diferent things from each of his individual children, never asking more than they can do.