There are no standards. Jehovah has choosen from the beginning, what it would take to judge and govern imperfect, sinful mankind, so of those choosen were for their sinful experiences in order to deal with sinners. Some were the lowest, most despicable humans, some were preordained to live such a life for the experience. Just like those that were blind, lame and sinners that Christ healed and forgave. They wernt JUST in the right place at the right time.
lesterd
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Did the heavenly calling cease in 1935? Not anymore!
by AnnOMaly inwatch out for the questions from readers in the may 1st 2007 watchtower.
"when does the calling of christians to a heavenly hope cease?
" it's a good'un.. included are the statements:.
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Did the heavenly calling cease in 1935? Not anymore!
by AnnOMaly inwatch out for the questions from readers in the may 1st 2007 watchtower.
"when does the calling of christians to a heavenly hope cease?
" it's a good'un.. included are the statements:.
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lesterd
Hey, the GB claims to be the one selecting, so they should know.
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Do you think Jesus gave every Christian a personal commission to preach?
by under_believer in"go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the father and of the son and of the holy spirit, teaching them to observe all the things i have commanded you.
i am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.
" (matthew 28:19, 20 | nwt) .
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lesterd
NO, NOT, NEVER.
Eph 4:11
And he gave some as apostles, some as prophets, some as evangelizers, some as shepherds and teachers..(and why?) 12 with a view to the readjustment of the holy ones, for ministerial work, for the building up of the body of the Christ, 13 until we all attain to the oneness in the faith and in the accurate knowledge of the Son of God, to a full-grown man, to the measure of stature that belongs to the fullness of the Christ; 14 in order that we should no longer be babes, tossed about as by waves and carried hither and thither by every wind of teaching by means of the trickery of men, by means of cunning in contriving error.Says it all for me
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Can a person become anointed before being baptised?
by unbaptized incan a person become anointed before being baptised?
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lesterd
Baptism has nothing to with anointing, its not knowledge that qualifies one to be anointed, in fact the ones choosen, were choosen at the founding of the world, pre-selected, pre-ordained, but predestened. The borg is the one that does the head count and they dont know. There are those of the anointed that partake because of the ostrosyism of the borg.
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Has the number of 144,000 changed?
by TooBad TooSad inthrough out my witness life i have always believed that when the partakers at memorial went up that means.
that some of the anoited were unfaithful and had to be replaced.
i have beleived this for 40 years.
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lesterd
The borg has always had trouble with numbers, and if the were sealed before 1935 then that number would have to drop appreciably every year, and those "unfaithful" were anointed before 1918, so they all should be dead and replaced cause thats when the "remnent"..remaining faithful came out of Babaloyn the great and the "unfaithful" stayed behind.....BS, if Jehovah choose them then why the split? and who left who?
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Do JW's still believe this?
by ctrx ini remember overhearing a discussion my parents had in the mid 1970's.
it was about who would be resurrected after armageddon.
supposedly, those who heard of "the truth" and rejected it were dead forever, but those who had never had a chance to hear it would be resurrected for a second chance to submit to jehovah/the watchtower society.. .
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lesterd
Only those who sin against the spirit will not have a second chance, and only Jehovahs knows who they are, pretty mystic huh.
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Withholding sex in a relationship or marriage
by free2beme ini once heard that when you first get married, you should take a jar and put a penny it in each time you have sex your first year.
then after the first year, take a penny out for each time you have sex, and that jar would never go empty.
basically, the sex gets old and you never do it much after the first year.
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lesterd
The marriage is on the down hill slide the first time its withheld.
My first marriage wa a 35 year honeymoon, end in her death by cancer, there would have been rooms of jars filled with pennies,
Keep up the love
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did the Witnesses hurt your marriage?
by magdalenefan into jump in and proclaim jesus was married, must seem strange, coming from someone divorced, i must believe in something.
mostly going over what went wrong and why.. if i shown more love, etc, etc.. but i wonder if the witnesses was like the rolling iron crush ball smashing into the demolishing building.
i am trying to think, blame them?
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lesterd
Accepting the way of the witnesses, is to ask for an unnatural relationship with a mate. The approch to marriage and religion is really backwards, the Bible plainly states that if you can love your borther, (wife), who you can see then you can love God. The witnesses keep that depth of love shollow in marriage putting Him first and not loving anyone enough to really give your life for them, being able to shun them is they are df or da. I call it light switch love, you can turn it off and on at any time.
No, if you can learn to love intensely and passionatly your wife or husband, then it will teach how to love God. That why there is so much love lost in the borg.
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Was Jesus married? Had Kids?
by magdalenefan inmost of you would remember the davinci code years back, so catch me up.
please, do you think jesus was married?
had kids?.
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lesterd
The Mormons believe he had 2 wives, hey if we are going to strech the truth lets give him multiple wives and kids.
But if Jesus was who he claimed and came to redeem mankind from what Adam lost, then his sacrafice had to be complete and unblimished. He traded his seed for the lost seeds of Adam, a race for a race. Because he bought us with is blood, then we, who accept him become his sons and daughters, his kids.
Jesus fullfilled the law, thereby removing the old law with all it's precepts and ceremony. Jesus refused to be called by any title and pointed to his Father in the heavens as the one who is worthy of such honor.
Constantine was in no postion to deify anyone, let alone it being 400 years after Christ died and was raise to heaven by God.
It was not Jewish law for every male to be called Rabbi, only those of pristly tribes, and John the baptist and the apostal Paul must not have read the same laws as you for they too were umarried and encouraged those who could to stay single.
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OH, THE IRONY OF IT ALL.............Global Warming
by Warlock in"blizzard targets northeast".
"record snow falls for date in chicago".
"hearing on 'warming of planet' cancelled because of ice storms".
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lesterd
Reall scientists say that we are really entering the next iceage. Ice core readings show the CO2 levels 100 points higher than in the preceeding iceages at thier beginnings. They happen about every 12000 years and we are due. The heat that is causing the temperature of the seas to rise is not from the greenhouse affect, but from the tectonis plates below the oceans, thier movement and magma from small volcanos all over the sea floor. So which will it be??? FIRE or ICE?