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  Posted a question about the cross/stake on Yahoo

  by rassillon in

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  http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=aquuntl1rtw8yezsxghq7fdd7br.

  should i have linked back to one of the good discussions here?

  check out some of the answers i am getting.

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  barry

  The most amazing thing is the WT Society lists there opinion on this as a major doctrine. It comes from memory about third in their list of doctrines.
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  Aboriginal Day of Protest

  by Paralipomenon in

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  up in canada there have been alot of frustrations over native land claims.

  there is a governmental backlog of over 600 claims and the native communities are getting frustrated.

  several tribes have taken up occupying controversial areas and there have been a few road blocks of crucial transport systems.

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  Here in Australia we have a different way of controlling the Aboriginals. The government gives them lots of handouts, the aboriginal people call it sit down money, that they use to buy lots of grog and there too anebreiated to try anything such a day of protest
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  Education Talk from Follow the Christ DC

  by FadingAway in

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  justitia themis had a topic 'disgusting comment re: education from tacoma 2007 district convention' regarding a talk on education that those pursuing degrees would be d.e.a.d.

  unfortunately that stupid comment was not made at the dc i attended, but i am providing the audio to let ones know how far the society is going in discouraging ones from pursuing college by using weak and tired arguments.. http://www.box.net/shared/s523re4c7i.

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  I just listened to the talk and its amazing how two different cults could be so different. The SDA religion actually promotes higher education and they have their own colleges. Of course higher education has its own problems for cults like thinking for oneself and it does cause some problems for the SDA leadership when people are trained to be smart.

  The speaker brought up old memories at the Kingdom Hall of how much they use the word Jehovah, constantly.
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  I caught a 'good standing' JW with another woman

  by jaffacake in

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  hi old friends, .

  the reason i joined this group was to stop my lifelong friend getting baptised a jw.

  well, i failed when he was baptised 2 years ago.

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  barry

  Gday jaffacake, Good to hear from you after so long.
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  7th Day Adventists & J-Dubs

  by Black Man in

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  can we consolidate a comprehensive thread on what beliefs the dubs ripped off, ahem co-opted from the adventists.

  i believe the birthdays and some of the end-times speculation came from them.

  i've been interested in seeing how much of an influence they have been.

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  I just found on the SDA Official website the SDA attitude to other christian groups and their attitude to apostates. Some of you might be thinking Im preaching here but nothing could be farther from the truth in some areas I strongly disagree with SDA doctrine like the investigative doctrine and 1844

  SDA attitude to other christians. From the official website

  We recognize those agencies that lift up Christ before men as part of the divine plan for evangelization of the world and we hold in high esteem christian men and women in other communions who are engaged in winning souls to Christ.

  SDA attitude to Apostates.

  We recognize that true religion is based on conscience and conviction.It is therefore to be our constant purpose that no selfish interest or temporal advantage shall draw any person to our communion and that no tie shall hold any mamber save the belief and conviction that in this way the true connection with Christ is found. If a change of conviction leads a member of our church to feel no longer in harmony with SDA faith and practice we recognize not only the right but the responsibility of that member to change, without opprobrium, religious affilliation in accord with belief. We expect other religious bodies to respond in the same spirit of religious liberty.
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  That Evil Disco??

  by WTWizard in

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  back in october 1983, there was a craptower study article that effectively banned disco, rock, and funk music.

  it also spelled the end of those rollerskating parties that the congregations used to organize.

  now, i can see their reasoning behind the rock (backmasking satanic messages) and funk (dirty), even though it is very specious.. however, the "evil disco" strikes me as weird.

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  Many of the hymns of Christendom have the tunes of popular music and some of the protestant reformers have said " Why should the devil have all the good music'.
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  Has Islam lead to an increase in Atheism?

  by nicolaou in

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  ever since 911 and the subsequent attacks in bali, madrid, and london it seems that everyone feels they have a licence to criticise islam (they do).

  fundamentalist and many mainstream christians deride the backwardness of a religion that creates suicide bombers and 'honour' killers.

  of course, it was only a small group of hardcore islamist extremists that carried out these attacks but the whole community has been tarred by them, and perhaps in some sense it is only right that the majority of 'reasonable' and peaceful muslims do accept the part they play in providing the soil for these people to grow in.

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  muslims while they wouldnt blow anyone up are sympathetic to the radical people in Islam.
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  Tom Cruise and Germany

  by sspo in

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  last night on the news it was mentioned that he was not allowed to film in germany because he was a member.

  of a cult " scientelogy" and it was nothing but a money making organization.. the question is why would they pick on them and not on the jw's knowing that their doctrines are harmful.

  to its members, such as the blood issue and df member and deviding families?.

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  I just heard on the news that the reason the Germans are so sensitive about Scientology is because Scientology promotes an authoritan style state in the future.similar to Nazism.
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  I thought they were crazy ...now I understand

  by Mrs Smith in

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  i could never get my head around the fact that people fall inlove over the net.

  it just seemed impossible to me.

  but now that i have been posting here for a while a totaly understand.

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  Am i invited too Mrs Smith ? Im fuzzy but its cold over here.
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  Millerite Adventism and Fred Franz

  by Dogpatch in

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  a gem from barbara anderson:.

  http://www.freeminds.org/women/barbara_anderson.htm.

  millerite adventism and fred franz.

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  barry

  Im supprised at the DD reference ' dump dogs' ive allways beleived Milller was a preacher of the baptist church until the day he died. Maybe he wasnt ordained.