Well said, Eduardo. Thanks you for your thoughts!
It is just as you said though, the negative connotation that this term has, which gets my dander up.
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my husband was talking at the table with his young adult daughter last night.
for those of you that don't know, he is a long time witness, and his children are of course witnesses also.
we were married when he was df'd, and i knew all about him being a witness and wanting to return.
Well said, Eduardo. Thanks you for your thoughts!
It is just as you said though, the negative connotation that this term has, which gets my dander up.
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being worldly i try to get my head around this sometimes, and wondered what others opinions are.
being that my husband is a long time witness i know what the witness view is, it is all satan's doing.
since most of you are "out", has your view on the source of evil/unacceptable behavior, (whatever you personally find just out-right wrong, for me it is child sexual abuse), changed?
I believe I saw a documentary on this a long, long time ago. Thank you for bringing it up in my mind again. For a moment I was getting jealous of you sixy, thinking Leakey had in fact sent YOU.
WW
being worldly i try to get my head around this sometimes, and wondered what others opinions are.
being that my husband is a long time witness i know what the witness view is, it is all satan's doing.
since most of you are "out", has your view on the source of evil/unacceptable behavior, (whatever you personally find just out-right wrong, for me it is child sexual abuse), changed?
ZN and JT, very thought provoking posts, thank you!
WW
do you guys know any very obviously crazy jw's?
i've noticed that they have been "flocking" to the org.
over the past few years especially.
I don't know about crazy, but I attended a meeting once w/ my husband and someone up front commented, and at the end of his comment he said "and that's why Jesus was killed on the cross".................I couldn't believe my ears....then the conductor corrected him and said, you know it was a stake though, right, brother so-and-so??
And the one book study meeting I went to the old man conducting it was either falling asleep or resting his eyes throughout. I honestly don't know how the attendees could sit there and SEE this man actually closing his eyes during the whole thing, and still pay attention to the study. That's one mighty long and broken up prayer otherwise...................
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my husband was talking at the table with his young adult daughter last night.
for those of you that don't know, he is a long time witness, and his children are of course witnesses also.
we were married when he was df'd, and i knew all about him being a witness and wanting to return.
Oops.... I must correct something. He has never called me "worldly", sorry if I gave that impression. When I hear conversations like this one that he had with his daughter, and her referring to her friend's girlfriend as "worldly", I can only imagine what is said about me to his friends in the congregation, etc. His grown adult children are faithful baptised witnesses. My young children are not........and neither am I . Never been, never will be. I'm the total opposite of one. That's what makes hearing this so strange, and hard on me. If we're so bad, why did he choose me?
He's "weak"? He wasn't "strong in the faith"? I blinded him with my brains, beauty and sinfulness?
WW
my husband was talking at the table with his young adult daughter last night.
for those of you that don't know, he is a long time witness, and his children are of course witnesses also.
we were married when he was df'd, and i knew all about him being a witness and wanting to return.
Yup, feels good!
It's a relief to know I can come here and sound off about things to people who know and understand......
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my husband was talking at the table with his young adult daughter last night.
for those of you that don't know, he is a long time witness, and his children are of course witnesses also.
we were married when he was df'd, and i knew all about him being a witness and wanting to return.
MJL-
That one beats all....."can't wait til these people just die" ????????????????? Gads..........
Worldly (I mean NORMAL per Min) Wife
Hey wow, I'm a junior member now!!!
my husband was talking at the table with his young adult daughter last night.
for those of you that don't know, he is a long time witness, and his children are of course witnesses also.
we were married when he was df'd, and i knew all about him being a witness and wanting to return.
My husband was talking at the table with his young adult daughter last night. For those of you that don't know, he is a long time Witness, and his children are of course Witnesses also. I am not and never have been. We were married when he was df'd, and I knew all about him being a Witness and wanting to return. I have never squelched him wanting to attend/be re-instated and have supported him, but always make it clear that I disagree and believe what I believe.
So they were discussing a young friend of hers, and he has a girlfriend. A WORLDLY girlfriend! Husband's reaction was him throwing his head back in exasperation when hearing this about her friend. Perhaps it is because he is not of the proper age to date (16 maybe?), but the worldly reference I'm sure made him react. This young friend of hers is an "unbaptised publisher".........yet another label................
What then, am I??? I had a hard time keeping it together and not jumping in to the conversation with...................."I am worldly, am I not?" Can't they see how insulting this is to ME? (or anyone outside the organization) Yes I know the answer to this, just a rant, remember.
I will have to bring this up to him because it is really bothering me, but dread the reaction and hours of discussion it is going to bring. It seems entirely hypocrytical......................another thing I can't get my mind around.......
end of rant-
WW signing off..........
being worldly i try to get my head around this sometimes, and wondered what others opinions are.
being that my husband is a long time witness i know what the witness view is, it is all satan's doing.
since most of you are "out", has your view on the source of evil/unacceptable behavior, (whatever you personally find just out-right wrong, for me it is child sexual abuse), changed?
One-
What is the answer provided by the WT? Just Satan and a band of demons, that is why people do the heinous things we see?
A question to myself is
WW, of the not studied much WT literature class, only an occasional WT or Awake................
any of you peoples ever watched that wonderful film 'secondhand lions'?.
it's about a young boy who goes to live with two elderly uncles who have lived very full and wild lives.
it's a great film.
I do take an E already, not sure of the iu's though. Thanks for the tip! :)