Posts by Jez

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Do you like cats?

by ozziepost in

on tonight's news:.

dead pets threaten beijing's 'green' olympics.

5:35 pm december 16 .

I hate cats. I have had them and I hate em. They piss and crap wherever they want, gardens, flowerbeds, wet towels, laundry baskets, etc. They shed on furniture and scratch their creepy little paws on it. They wake you up at 3 am to be let out, and then meowwww at 4:30 am to be let back in. I would never own one.

I DO however have 2 dogs. Why I have them, sometimes I ask myself. I do all the work taking care of them. They are a bit of a pain and the only reason i have them is for kids. Never again.

Jez (am I miserable tonight or what?)

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I can't get to grips with being shunned

by chuckyy in

my wife and i have been disassociated for about 2 months now.

every day in our small town we are being shunned by former friends.

one in particular annoyed me today.

Jez

What a crazy crazy practice. The other night, I could not sleep until 1am because I was mulling over and over again how great it would be to sue the elders that df'ed me. I would love for them to get a million dollar lawsuit slapped onto their lap for defamation of character and slander. That announcement that they made has caused me to lose my mother and my brother and created major divisions in my family and in my community. I see JW children in the schools where I work that look the other way as if I am going to sprout horns and spit demon venom at them if they look at me.

I feel like slapping all the JW's for looking down their nose at me, as if I am unworthy of common courtesy. I am treated as one would be treated that has been charged with the grossest crimes imaginable.

I am tired sometimes of 'holding my head up', 'forget em!', 'move on'.....

I want to do something to inform the world of this practice. People would be shocked to know how far JW's take this practice. this is such an in-house secret practice. Why can't we make it public somehow?

I am writing my story to some lawyers, the Women's rights activist website, and I am going to go talk to someone. i don't care if I win, I just want the practice of disfellowshipping public and I would love for elders to be freaked out that if they df someone, they might get sued for doing it.

Jez

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I don't think God is fair./what do u think?

by wednesday in

my therapist and i talked about the bible, specifically, adam and eve and their sinning by eating from the forbidden fruit.

he says it is really a great lesson on consequences of your actions.

i agreed and we talked at some length about it, but one thing i decided, god was not fair.

Jez

Jez:
No worries. It's not like we're paid to write here, eh? It's a hobby, yes?

Get well soon!!!

LittleToe: I took the day off work to try to improve...damn cold, had it for a week, tried to sleep and just ended up laying in bed till 11am. I can't sleep in, I can't sleep during the day so what a waste of time.

Anyways, about the 'moral of the story' regarding Adam and Eve. I am guilty of still taking things literally sometimes. But I am learning. I have often thought about the story of Adam and Eve. IMHO, I believe it is a myth about how man began and what motivates humans. I give it just as much merit as I do Little Red Riding Hood or any other fable. I believe you weight this story more than just a story and while I do find it interesting, I don't think it has anything to teach us anymore. It is a man's perspective on why the world is the way it is.

Maybe it is not a story of how physical death came about, rather just a story about the progression of civilization.

Jez

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truebloom is here to introduce herself

by truebloom in

i just wanted to introduce myself here on this forum.

i have been lurking here awhile, i really enjoy reading your posts.

i get so caught up reading i don't have much to add, but give me time.

Jez

Welcome and please share a little of your story whenever you feel ready.

Jez

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DA-ing Announcement in the Society's New Book

by Mark in

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friends

the society's new book 'organized to do jehovah's will', to be released in the congregations .

on the 20th of march, introduces a change in the df and da announcements.

announcements will read the same: "[name of person] is no longer one of jehovah's .

Jez

The wording here is in effect saying that THEY did not kick us out, WE are just no longer one of JWs. Very very vague and necessary because now if this goes to court, the vagueness of the whole wording will not swing to the df'ed ones way. It will favor the society. It absolves them of responsibility for their actions legally. So what if I say, "NO, I AM still a JW, excuse me, but I AM" What would they say then?

This is a witch hunt, now it is worse because it is going to all be done even MORE than ever under the carpet, behind the curtain, everyone KNOWS what is going on, but no one has actual proof of it. Oh the utter Slyness of it all and the demonic influence of this.

It is so clever, they have once again, made themselves look innocent to the rank and file. I bet the society is realizing that df'ing is pissing ppl off, both ex and current JWs so they 'soften' the process with words and make it look like they have not done anything! Why, so and so is just not a JW anymore. I wonder if they will also stop publishing WT and Awake articles about how to treat df'ed individuals so that there is no proof either. It will be all word of mouth and talks on how to shun us. BASTARDS. They win again.

Jez

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Are you easy to influence?

by JH in

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friends

are you the type that's easily influenced by the opinion of others?

i'm easy to influence, but once i'm back alone, i do what i wanted to do originally.

how about you, are you easily influenced?

Jez

I am incredibly stubborn and rarely do I follow anyone.

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Has anyone got anything positive from being a JW?

by diamondblue1974 in

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friends

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i hear and read alot about peoples experiences and some are pretty horrendous....does anyone actually feel they have benefited from being a jw at least in one way or another...me personally i feel i benefited from the ministry school as public speaking is part of my job and has definately improved career prospects?.

g

Jez

I got free babysitting for my girls while I worked

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TODAYS TALKS WAS BORING AS HELL..........

by Mary in

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friends

i actually went to the meeting this morning (okay, sumeone talked me into going)...........god it was boring.......something about jesus and the kingdom and frigging deuteronomy and hebrews and jeremiah-was-a-bullfrog...........and then they talked about old faithful: mathew 28:19 20 "go therefore and piss everyone off selling btochtower and asleep magazines to all the inhabitents of the earth.

an' look: i am with you every frigging saturday morning till the government bans your sorry asses.

i escaped after the first meeting and met the stares of several good christians wanting to know why i was leaving half way through......i told the asshole elder who followed me outside: " i've got my period!!

Jez

I don't care how you take it, I don't even know you, I am not going to judge you, but stop whining about it already or I WILL!

As for the ol' "I should know, I was a JW" well, there were many loving elders in my old KH. I truly loved them and felt loved by them. THEY were not corrupt, the system they belonged to was, when push came to shove, they HAD to follow the rules laid out before them and ignore their natural inclinations. Of course there were a few elders that were exactly what you described, but I was never, nor did I see any elder chase down anyone that left the hall and demand a reason why.

I do remember though how some of the old elders would view children, I use to be TAPPED by this one elder during a song or a prayer if my baby even squeeked. It was hard enough to be there with 2 little ones on my own and then have him completely shatter me. I left this one time, when downstairs and he followed! Brought me to tears with his words of how undisciplined my children were, how it is obvious that there is no head of the house, what utter little brats they were. I went to the body of elders about him, but they made excuses that he had been sick lately.

Jez

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TODAYS TALKS WAS BORING AS HELL..........

by Mary in

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friends

i actually went to the meeting this morning (okay, sumeone talked me into going)...........god it was boring.......something about jesus and the kingdom and frigging deuteronomy and hebrews and jeremiah-was-a-bullfrog...........and then they talked about old faithful: mathew 28:19 20 "go therefore and piss everyone off selling btochtower and asleep magazines to all the inhabitents of the earth.

an' look: i am with you every frigging saturday morning till the government bans your sorry asses.

i escaped after the first meeting and met the stares of several good christians wanting to know why i was leaving half way through......i told the asshole elder who followed me outside: " i've got my period!!

Jez

Mary: Reread your initial post, there is no background information that you provided in the above post. The first post reads like, you left, some elder followed you, you turned on him.

You post such a story, and I replied. Some of it was tongue in cheek, but for the most part, it is how I feel. Expect all kinds of replies. I certainly don't judge YOU as a person. I don't even know you!!!!

Jez

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TODAYS TALKS WAS BORING AS HELL..........

by Mary in

jw
friends

i actually went to the meeting this morning (okay, sumeone talked me into going)...........god it was boring.......something about jesus and the kingdom and frigging deuteronomy and hebrews and jeremiah-was-a-bullfrog...........and then they talked about old faithful: mathew 28:19 20 "go therefore and piss everyone off selling btochtower and asleep magazines to all the inhabitents of the earth.

an' look: i am with you every frigging saturday morning till the government bans your sorry asses.

i escaped after the first meeting and met the stares of several good christians wanting to know why i was leaving half way through......i told the asshole elder who followed me outside: " i've got my period!!

Jez

I escaped after the first meeting and met the stares of several good christians wanting to know why I was leaving half way through......I told the asshole elder who followed me outside: " I'VE GOT MY PERIOD!!"

I don't know why everyone here is applauding Mary, I for one, won't. This kind of rudeness was uncalled for and I feel bad for the elder. At least he went out after her to make sure she was alright. He is only human after all, and you obviously did not even give him a chance to say what he wanted or what his intentions were, and you tell me what guy wouldn't turn red after some women screams at him "I'VE GOT MY PERIOD" What did you accomplish? Why even go to a meeting if you are this angry?

I will applaud you however for a great example of crude remarks that do nothing but embarrass and stupify a fellow human being. Why not take the opportunity to educate him about the real reason that you left?

Jez