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  Power of hte human mind-See if you can READ THIS.....................

  by Jez in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i cdnuolt blveiee taht i cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht i was rdgnieg.

  the phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid.

  aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at cmabrigde uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer inwaht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae.

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  Jez

  Upsidedown: So.............................................................................................................what?
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  Power of hte human mind-See if you can READ THIS.....................

  by Jez in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i cdnuolt blveiee taht i cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht i was rdgnieg.

  the phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid.

  aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at cmabrigde uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer inwaht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae.

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  Jez

  I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was

  rdgnieg. The

  phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid. Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at

  Cmabrigde

  Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer inwaht oredr the ltteers in a wrod

  are, the olny

  iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit

  pclae. The

  rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a

  porbelm. Tihs is

  bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the

  wrod as a

  wlohe. Amzanig huh? Yaeh and I awlyas thought slpeling was

  ipmorantt!
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  Sinners-Not even eating with such a man!

  by cindykp in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  1 corinthians 5:11 "but now i am writing you to quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man.".

  if we were not allowed to be spoken to after disfellowship, why doesnt this scripture clearly say "not even speaking with such a man"?

  there is a major difference between getting together and eating with sinners, than there is talking to them at the kingdom hall.

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  Jez

  I agree. For my view on the whole thing, click on this link to read my old thread about this topic.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/84299/1.ashx

  Welcome! From Jez
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  Why would you want to kill the org?

  by what_Truth? in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i know that there's a lot of people here who have been deeply hurt by the jehovah's witnesses (i have as well).

  i also know that the gb are a bunch of lying bastards.

  still i have also met a lot of people who have made their lives much better by becoming jehovah's witnesses.

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  Franklin J:

  Based on my experiences, it is a certain individual with an inability to think and act for themselves who are attracted to the rigid way of life .

  I think the above statement is too broad and generalized. I was not attracted to a rigid way of life when I was a witness. I was attracted to many other things, but the 'rigid' part never occurred to me. I was raised one. The option to seek out, learned about, choose another religion was not offered to me. I did not have a choice.

  I certainly was an educated witness, I certainly could think and act for myself.

  My JW mother is not a weak pushover, neither is my sisterinlaw, my brother and many many more that I know.

  I don't think this is the reason that ppl become or stay a JW. SOMETIMES, yes, but not even close to the 100% blanket statement above.

  Jez
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  Did You Feel Being Disfellowshipped Or Reproved Was Justified???

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  at the time you got "disciplined", did you feel you "deserved" it??

  what about now????

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  At the time, I went and confessed to the elders. It was not out of guilt, it was out of a false sense that they would support me in my desire to become "spiritual" again and err on the side of mercy. Boy was I wrong. I feel like I lost my father as I was very close to these elders. They knew the most intimate things of my life that no one knew for 14 years (that my ex was a very abusive man). We all had so many meetings over my ex, he was jailed, but I kept following their advice to stay, we had meeting after meeting after meeting........SO the final time that he breached his conditions (we were obviously seperated by this point) and they again told me to wait, give him time to change etc. It hit me. They don't care about ME. They did not even care if I was killed by him, as long as I did not "bring reproach on Jehovah's name."

  So I quietly left them (the elders) and when love finally found it's way to me, they came a'knockin again. This time, happily, to wash their hands of me. So, with ex getting only a public reproof for 14 years of abuse, I got df'ed for finally having the strength to get out of the relationship and remarrying. Oh, he also got a free ticket to remarry, which he used.

  NO, my df'ing was not justified. They looked at the action (F***ing another man) and none of the emotions attached, history, what is right and good, who deserved what. NOTHING. Jesus condemned those that were so black and white, Jesus sought out those grey areas and showed love and compassion when faced with them.

  Jez
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  Mass. High Court Makes Landmark Child Abuse Ruling--JW

  by blondie in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.metrowestdailynews.com/localregional/view.bg?articleid=91413&format=text

  high court makes landmark church abuse ruling.

  by michael kunzelman / associated press.

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  Jez

  The girl's parents, who learned about the alleged abuse in August 2000, sued the ministerial servant and two Boston-area Jehovah's Witness congregations for negligence as well as breach of fiduciary duty.

  Wonder if the parents were df'ed for suing. ?
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  Why would you want to kill the org?

  by what_Truth? in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i know that there's a lot of people here who have been deeply hurt by the jehovah's witnesses (i have as well).

  i also know that the gb are a bunch of lying bastards.

  still i have also met a lot of people who have made their lives much better by becoming jehovah's witnesses.

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  Well said Rabbit, your comment below is the ONE thing that bothered me for years as a JW. That reason is why I never could buy into the fear 100%.

  For ANY group of people to be filled with 'glee' at Armegeddon...which portends the horrible death of billions of humans...is so far beyond 'sick'

  Toronto-boy. My mother and I discussed this religion for hours standing outside my house this past summer. She was so cornered, so she stopped, took a deep breathe, and said, "What would you have me do? Give up EVERYTHING I have ever lived for, what else is there?" I calmly said, "NOW you know the truth, NOW it is TRULY your decision what to do with that information."

  See, I believe that ppl have the right to CHOOSE. But most JW's do not have all the information to make a true choice. Why? Because that information is hidden, manipulated, they are told NOT to talk to any ex-JW's, the disfellowshipped for questioning, disagreeing etc. THE TRUTH IS HIDDEN! So, yes, I will do all I can to provide the ppl I love with what I know now, from then on, it is up to them what they do with that information. Stay or Go. Not my call. But I want them to make as informed a decision as possible.

  Now I am just trying to figure out how to get my sisterinlaw to check out this site. I think I am going to send her an anonymous letter highlighting some points and then give her some websites.

  Jez
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  Describe Yourself Without Being Revealing.

  by Golf in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as i told kl, i'm not sabotaging her thread, mine has a twist, for example, my wife 'descibes' me best by always reminding that i'm not 'normal.

  ' this means i do things differently than the ordinary person as i'm into many activities.

  many of these activities involve people.

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  I hate when hubby wears socks to bed.

  Jez
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  Need prayers for my sister...she just got DF'd

  by FreedomFrog in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm really concerned for my sister and her husband.

  they both got df'd last thurs.

  and i found out today cause my mom called crying histerically telling me the news.

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  Don't let her go alone! Go with her, just show up with her, do not give them the satisfaction of letting them know beforehand. Tell them that you are there for support, both mentally and emotionally. If they disagree, threaten them with legal action re: discrimination.

  My boyfriend came with me to my JC meeting, and they did not squabble, so it CAN be done.

  Please don't let her go alone.

  Jez
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  Help me prove to my bf that defellowshipping happens

  by MM090503 in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  hi all.. many of you have probably seen my posts on here before, but if you haven't let me reinterate my story in short for you.. i am currently dating a wonderful guy, but the problem is he has been considering becoming a jw.

  he has studdied with them for about a year.

  because of me has agreed to do some religion searching and figure out what he really believes.

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  Jez

  Send him to silentlambs.com or freeminds.org to read ppl's df'ing stories. Tell him to check out the women's section there as well (freeminds.org).

  Print off all the df'ing stories you find at the site (example below) and give them to him.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/85621/1.ashx

  and check out Trevor's post in the following thread:

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/85636/1.ashx