there have been a couple of posts recently about the 144,000. since the wt theory is bogus, i ask the forum, "who are the 144,000"?
i know the traditional view of some religions is that they are 144,000 literal jews who will convert near the gt to witness to the jewish population.
not sure that makes a whole lot of sense to me.
Ohio um there have been over 144k anointed JWs
On this I seem to remember being told as a child at the memorial that some who partake are not part of the anointed and they would be dealt with harshly by Jah. It's been so long and my memory fails me but I do believe there is scripture to back this up but can't say for sure.
i found out recently that both valis and avishai are fellow universal life church people.
maybe we should form a tax-exempt corporation and legally-swindle money from the government like our alma mater (da borg) does?
http://www.ulc.org/.
I was ordained in July of 2002!
the only real definition of apostate i ever had was from being raised a witness.
so, i have this idea that it is an evil, wicked thing.
because of that i dont like to call myself an apostate.
You know the apostate gland. ROFL
Sorry just in a funny mood today
lately i have been reading alot about those who cease the dub life, and though they are not officially dfed or daed, are treated as though they are by dub family and friends.
when i was a dub , i remember viewing those who did not come to meeting's anymore nor field service......as simply "weak" or inactive.
never do i remember shunning or snubbing those who seemed to fade away.
I was a lifer and in the same cong. while growing up and when I decided to stop going to meetings not one elder came to see why. There were only 2 people who would very rarely ask my mom how I was doing. I went to a very gossipy KH so there were probably many rumors going around about me since I had been there all my life. Did I care? HELL NO! Over the past 20 years since I have been to a meeting I've seen people I knew then who I was really close to and when they see me out in public they do an about face and walk the other way. It just makes me laugh and happy that they didn't speek to me!
i can't stand it when i hear a person saying how god "protected our house," when their neighbor's house lies in ruins.
i can prove this is pure, unadulterated, bullshit:
our home was left virtually untouched, and the house across the street lost their roof.
This reminds me of something I heard an elder say when I was a kid. I remember hearing about a KH that was destroyed by a tornado or hurricane (can't remember which) One of the elders said it might have been Jah's way of dealing with a congregation where there was serious wrongdoing and/or unrepentant people (maybe corrupt elders - yeah like that doesn't happen anywhere these days LOL)
Just an example of how the Borg will justify any situation to keep people from questioning things.What a joke this was now that I think of it! Just more propaganda.
i still suffer from the guilt and embarrassment from a meeting with the elders when i was about 17 years old.
myself and another congregation member the same age as myself were exposed of having homosexual conduct with each other.
i went to the kingdom hall with my father to meet with the elders and they proceeded to ask me graphic questions about my activity with this other boy.
I am posting this as a question to any who are lawyers or those who might be interested joining this effort.
I still suffer from the guilt and embarrassment from a meeting with the elders when I was about 17 years old. Myself and another congregation member the same age as myself were exposed of having homosexual conduct with each other. I went to the kingdom hall with my father to meet with the elders and they proceeded to ask me graphic questions about my activity with this other boy. Questions such as did you perform oral sex on him, did you perform anal sex, how many times did you have his penis in your mouth, did you enjoy it, did (name) ever put his penis in your mouth, how many times did you perform oral sex on each other? I believe this iterrogation has caused permanent emotional scars. I have problems maintaining relationships and still play that meeting over in my head (it happened 23 years ago). That in conjunction with the monumental embarrasment of having to sit in the congregation as they announce that you are bad association and then give a talk on how homosexuality is a sin. In my congregation it was customary to give a talk on the subject that the person was being disassociated or disfellowshipped right after they make the announcement about that person. So everyone knew that the reason I was considered bad association was because I engaged in homosexual activity. The other boy I fooled around with has been divorced 3 times (same problem with relationships) and is an alcoholic who tried to commit suicide by crashing his car when he was 20.
This brings me to my question. Are there any grounds for bringing a lawsuit against the society for this horrible ordeal? And if there is would it be considered a class action lawsuit if other gay ex-JW's became co-plaintiffs.
I am sure quite a great number of us have gone through a situation similar to this and am curious if anyone else would be interested in joining this lawsuit if it is a possibility.
I am not out for revenge but just to put this to rest and know that I made a difference for future gay JW's that might be in this situation. Could this set a precidence and maybe put an end to the public humiliation that the society brings upon someone who "doesn't follow the rules"? I know I am forever emotonally scarred from this and feel this is a way of reclaiming myself and hope that others might feel this way also.
I would appreciate any feedback on this from anyone who cares to comment.
Thanks,
Chris
