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  The friends, the truth and loaded language

  by detective in

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  as many people already know, using the term "the truth" to describe an organization's teachings is a brilliant way to constantly reaffirm it's validity subconsciously.

  it's a great use of repetition to establish as fact that which is only opinion.. i keep hearing the phrase "the friends".

  aside from the fact that i really don't like the terminology, i couldn't help but wonder if this isn't just another use of repetition and loaded language to enforce the belief that all of the people who share the same religion actually are your friends.. in some ways, i think it would be beneficial for some folks to drop "the truth" and "the friends" from their vocabulary so that they aren't continuing to immerse themselves in group-lingo that's intended to elicit certain emotional responses and associations.. what other loaded language can you come up with that is quasi-specific to jehovah's witnesses?

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  bay64me

  It always used to grate on me when in prayers, a certain elder would ask that we would be forgiven our wrongdoings and shortcomings!
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  AM I NORMAL?

  by bay64me in

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  i have been meeting-free for a year now, (although i did attend the last memorial mainly out of curiosity).

  i have learned enough now, since leaving "the truth" to know that i'm never going back.

  but i was wondering how long it takes to get all of the shit out of your head?

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  I have been meeting-free for a year now, (although I did attend the last memorial mainly out of curiosity). I have learned enough now, since leaving "the truth" to know that i'm never going back. But I was wondering how long it takes to get all of the shit out of your head? I've been into chatrooms, visited exjw sites, recently come here,read plenty and i'm thinking maby i'm getting to be as obsessed with exjw issues as I once was obsessed with being a jw! I don't feel like I can ever be 'normal' again! It feels like i've gone from one extreme to the other and i'd rather be somewhere in the middle. I have soooooooooo much anger and resentment and heaps of sadness, its almost too much to bear at times and I really don't know how to deal with it. I'm interested to know how others dealt with their feelings and emotions. Is it usual to feel the way I do? Am I normal?
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  A question for XJWs. . .

  by StinkyPantz in

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  how many of you are now atheists or agnostics?

  how many of you have actually converted to another organized religion?

  personally i find myself doubting anything and everything i learned about the bible and religion.

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  I'm still a jw, ie not disfellowshipped and not disassociated, been inactive for about a year.My head is all messed up over religion and I do not read the bible anymore. I still get wt/a mags dropped off and sometimes read them with a critical eye. I can't believe that I ever fell for all that crap! I have a lot of anger and sadness over my wasted years, maby when I work through all of that I might find a space for something but at the moment that part of my brain-mind-heart-whatever, is strictly closed.
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  Evil?

  by WildTurkey in

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  i have met so many great folks in the chat room, and read many wonderful post.

  its sad that because these people have decided to think for their selves, they have been labeled evil.

  people who once called us friends, said they would give their lives for us, now will not even make eye contact with us.

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  Here here, i'll take my chances too!
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  FAMILY CRAPINESS (PT 2)

  by bay64me in

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  well they both actually 'qualified for the ministry'!!

  although by now the violence had by both of them, become a part of every day life!.

  mrs was waiting on jehovah and mr was getting away with almost murder.

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  Well they BOTH actually 'qualified for the ministry'!! Although by now the violence had by both of them, become a part of every day life!
  Mrs was waiting on jehovah and Mr was getting away with almost murder. Mrs got baptised, he did not. Oddly enough there were a fair number in the congregation who appeared to favour the less spiritual Mr and plenty in the congregation who seemed only too happy to watch in the hope that Mrs, who was making progress, should fall flat on her face! Elder Spoutcrap was a regular visitor to the home, dishing out his unqualified counsel on a weekly basis, but by now he failed to realise that Mr was taking the piss out of him, BIG STYLE!
  Mr had the JWs sussed by now. He had complete control over his wife, kids and certain members of the congregation.Lets forward a little. As was to be sadly expected, Mr went way over the top one night and Mrs who had supressed enough somehow finally found the strength to leave. 'For the kids', she would say.
  Mrs didn't get the support of a worldwide loving brotherhood, she never even got the support from the congregation that she deserved. Elder spoutcrap and his wife were at a loss for words, for once! Mrs struggled on her own for a while, still attending meetings, but eventually gave up. She is still on her own with the children. What was it all about? Totally unecessary! An intrusion by 'gods people' and another marriage bites the dust! That my friends is the secret of FAMILY CRAPINESS!
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  THE SECRET OF FAMILY CRAPINESS

  by bay64me in

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  i know of a lady that started to study with her husband and to keep the story fairly brief, i shall omit smaller details although they are not unimportant.

  as the study progressed, at different rates (the mrs was more taken in than the mr.) so they were split up, ie.

  2 studies were then underway,(more hours to report!

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  I know of a lady that started to study with her husband and to keep the story fairly brief, i shall omit smaller details although they are not unimportant. As the study progressed, at different rates (the Mrs was more taken in than the Mr.) So they were split up, ie. 2 studies were then underway,(more hours to report!) This is where the great divide started. Mrs continued to progress, Mr not as much. Mr became resentful and angry as he saw his wife being taken away from him. Mrs got the advice to keep close to jehovah and pray for him. Convinced that this was the 'truth' the advice was heeded. Mr however felt he had to pretend and go along with it(he didnt want to lose his wife and the guilt that is piled on someone whilst studying is enormous!
  Mr's unvented emotions got the better of him and all that supressed anger turned to rage! He started to get violent with Mrs. The police were called on a number of occasions as there were children involved too. Mrs, still convinced that this really was the truth,(after all she was now suffering persecution and THAT was REAL evidence! Here started months of unqualified counselling from study conductors which happened to be an elder and his wife.Mr got all the usual counsel pertaining to marriage and treating his wife like a precious vase, (the weaker vessel etc) Her advice however was shocking! She was told that she could not progress in the truth if she involved the authorities again, in other words, dont involve the police or you can't go out on the work! And a load of garbage about bringing reproach on jehovahs name and organisation! Sad to say the crap advice was heeded. But this did not stop the violence against her or her children. This lady was now the recipient of verbal, mental and physical abuse. The truth so far had turned him into a monster and her into a doormat and all the time confirming the message to her that she was suffering for the sake of righteousness. The house they lived in had holes in most of the doors and walls where Mr either punched them or threw his wife against them. Mrs covered them up with bible verses written on paper! At this point the study was continuing on a weekly basis, the children had their own study on another night, Elder Spoutcrap came on yet another night to counsel Mr, they were also attending the meetings three times a week!
  Mrs kept it all inside, like the family book told her to, as did Elder Spoutcraps wife. Just pause for a moment to consider this.....This previously, reasonably happy couple were by this time totally divided, he and his life was out of control and she was totally brainwashed into thinking that if she could do more to serve jehovah, all would be well...and this is how it continued, the violence peaking when Mr hit his wife so hard that she was rendered unconcious.........to be continued............
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  hello.......newbie here

  by scootergirl in

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  just wanted to say hello and that i am very excited to find a board such as this one!

  guaranteed you will see more of me and i am looking forward to getting to know more of you!

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  hello scootergirl, im new(ish) too.Look forward to hearing your experiences!
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  JW BLOWS WHISTLE!

  by bay64me in

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  thought i'd share some of my experiences with you all!.

  sister x, was somewhat of an enigma in the congregation, certainly a 'one-off'!

  allegedly she suffered from an 'illness' that incapacitated her at strangely convenient times!

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  Thought i'd share some of my experiences with you all!
  Sister X, was somewhat of an enigma in the congregation, certainly a 'one-off'! Allegedly she suffered from an 'illness' that incapacitated her at strangely convenient times! Her self-diagnosed disability, qualified her for extra money from the state (on top of
  her income support) yet modern day miracles from jehovah enabled her to regular pioneer!
  Circuit visits were always something to eagerly anticipate, as she was curiously wheelchair-bound! Wow what a faithful sister, loyally serving jehovah!
  Sister X married another regular pioneer about 15 years her junior....oh dear...this was not a match made in heaven! Their marriage lasted 20 weeks, they both were removed from pioneering, he grassed her up to the authorities about her peculiar 'illness', her disability allowance was stopped, furthermore Mr X involved the authorities over alleged child abuse, by her towards her two children from a previous marriage! The latest I heard was that the said children were taken off her, she is now divorced and living alone with her dusty wheelchair for company! Yet, she continues steadfastly, running with endurance, (now that her 'illness' is forcibly in remission ie. the money was stopped!) AND she STILL goes door to door offering bible studies! Teaching people of a BETTER WAY OF LIFE?????????????????????????????????????????
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  Be gentle with me (part2)

  by bay64me in

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  been inactive for about a year now, have quite a lot of anger that needs attention!

  wondering if it would be a good idea to write down my grievances and put in a letter of disassociation, or simply fade and deal with my anger another way?

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  Been inactive for about a year now, have quite a lot of anger that needs attention! Wondering if it would be a good idea to write down my grievances and put in a letter of disassociation, or simply fade and deal with my anger another way?!
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  be gentle with me

  by bay64me in

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  my first time here, looking forward to meeting similar types, interesting thoughts and encouragment.

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  My first time here, looking forward to meeting similar types, interesting thoughts and encouragment.