Posts by Qcmbr

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Atheism and Theism are only partly right!

by abiather in

today we know that matter and energy are interchangeable, hence they are there always in either form, they are eternal, hence requires no creator.

hence atheism is right in rejecting a creator, but failed in providing any motivation for people to do good.

religions, in their effort to provide a motivating factor for humans to do good, introduced creation stories and other myths; hence they too are right (as far as their intention is concerned), yet failed in producing any worthy resultsworld was steadily moving from bad to worse and from worse to worst!.

Qcmbr

..so Abiather - you realise you now look completely foolish? You tried and failed to promote an argument (atheism and theism are both partially right and partially wrong) based upon something (what motivates to do good) that at least atheism has nothing to do with - people clearly do good or bad regardless of their belief as evidenced every day in society. Really - your religion is silly(and dangerous), your point is silly and this post is devious. Thank you for allowing us to advertise the truth about your cult and the dangers of cult language (your posts read like a zombie wrote them).

When a religious poster capitalises whole words I know preaching has begun and dialogue has ceased.

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What If the Soul Sleeping Doctrine is False?

by Cold Steel in

when god breathed life into adam, adam became a living soul.

moments before he had been only a concept...an idea; a lump of clay if youre a literalist.

now he was a complex living and breathing being.

Qcmbr

Pretty much the same way that mormons react when they are confronted by evidence that contradicts their core belief. Most ignore, some argue and a few start the divorce procedings. How do you react Cold Steel when we show you Mormon lies, logic errors , immorality and proof of the fraudulent nature of the Book of Mormon?

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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

by cofty in

yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

Qcmbr

Mormonism does partially solve the evil /good god paradox by implementing a pre mortal state for the spirit in which a decision must be made by each individual to come to a state of mortality and experience good and bad in order to increase the experiential knowledge of that spirit in prepapration for a later potential higher state (being a god.) So God says it will hurt do you still want to go? - in effect repeating the Eden scenario for each individual who must choose knowledge (a corollary and requirement for exaltation) via mortality with its pain, suffering and death. Mormonism also now timidly states that God also went through this process to become a god.

Mormonism also makes you wear stupid clothes to gain exaltation which is one of many areas where the interesting philosophy then all goes to crazy sh*t :)

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Who Made The Code?

by Perry in

a few weeks ago, discoveries were made that show that there is another dna code language that rides on top of the already incredibly complex 4-letter code previously discovered.

this newly discovered code apparently regulates how genes work.

as i noted in a previous thread, the amount of data storage available in the dna storage system just the size of a pin-head would filll a stack of books stacked from your driveway to the moon .... 500 times!

Qcmbr

Seems to me that this is the standard communication problem that results fom two different worldviews. The philosophical one doesn't really care about 'how' but wants to answer 'why' and the scientific one keeps explaining 'how' but doesn't really care so much about 'why' .

S&R has put together a superb scientific response (how) while Perry seems to be saying that the 'how' cannot explain the 'why' and is therefore deficient. The 'why' is of course speculative and so we get opinion but no substance as the 'why' has no explanatory power as to 'how' (the bible doesn't contain information on genetics for example.) Those seeking 'how' answers normally detest opinion based 'why' answers and those seeking 'why' answers cannot always fathom what is so special with 'how' answers and get frustrated when a 'how' contradicts an expected evidence for a 'why'. This paragraph will now explode as it is too horrible to read again.

Philosophers and lovers of why - you would do well to ask yourself if the how answers given here are really at odds with your decided why and then a lot of misguided attacks on the world of how knowledge can be avoided.

Scientists and lovers of how - thank you.

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Do Wills Ever Affect Shunning?

by Cold Steel in

a man has several sons and daughters who are active jehovah's witnesses.

so was his wife, who died two years ago.

he has since lapsed into apostasy and has been openly critical of the governing body.

Qcmbr

My siblings and I hope that dad dies first as he has explicitly stated that all his money is going to the billionaire lds church but mum says she'd share it equally. I hate religion.

18

A mormon pm's me

by paranoia agent in

just read your thread about oblivion to oblivion, watched the video you posted and wondered if you'd be willing to let me send you some videos on the book of mormon.

as you may know, i'm lds and i believe there's substantial evidence for the historicity of the book.

but i'm also aware there's evidence and proof.

Qcmbr

We judge ourselves by our intentions but others by their actions

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Surviving 2014

by Defianttruth in

jw
friends

sometimes i get stuck in the "ruts of my past".

i worry about the family i have lost and the pain i live with because of this cult.

this is my plan for 2014. i'm going to do things out of my comfort level.

Qcmbr

..confused do I need to be a lesbian or a cross dresser to accomplish both 1 and 2?;)

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A mormon pm's me

by paranoia agent in

just read your thread about oblivion to oblivion, watched the video you posted and wondered if you'd be willing to let me send you some videos on the book of mormon.

as you may know, i'm lds and i believe there's substantial evidence for the historicity of the book.

but i'm also aware there's evidence and proof.

Qcmbr

I sympathise but I also am a bit sad you posted a pm in public without prior agreement.

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Mormons getting hollowed out: The tipping point has occurred.

by Qcmbr in

ever since mitt romney turned the spotlight on the lds church a growing tsunami of disaffection has been accelerated and brought to a head.. the lds core faithful members are leaving in increasing numbers such that growth has not simply stagnated in the west but it has actively reversed.

to their credit the church is responding aggressively but not only is it too late, it is an impossible task.

you can only paint sh*t so many ways.

Qcmbr

The ward clerk takes meeting attendance counts and provides a monthly report.

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Mormons getting hollowed out: The tipping point has occurred.

by Qcmbr in

ever since mitt romney turned the spotlight on the lds church a growing tsunami of disaffection has been accelerated and brought to a head.. the lds core faithful members are leaving in increasing numbers such that growth has not simply stagnated in the west but it has actively reversed.

to their credit the church is responding aggressively but not only is it too late, it is an impossible task.

you can only paint sh*t so many ways.

Qcmbr

As of 31 December 2012, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints reported 188,462 members in 45 stakes, 335 Congregations (286 wards[1] and 49 branches[1]), 6 missions, and 2 temples in the United Kingdom. (wikipaedia)

I'm part of an active ex LDs community and in a straw poll of the 200 members of that group a rough average active membership per ward , being generous, was 120.

120 * 335 = 40200.

188462 - 40200 = 148262 inactive members in the UK.