Posts by bboyneko

back in the days of early rome, the numbers of christians were increasing daily and the jews couldn't understand why these christians were no longer jews.

christians presented a problem to the roman empire.

Back in the days of early Rome, the numbers of Christians were increasing daily and the Jews couldn't understand why these Christians were no longer Jews. Christians presented a problem to the Roman empire. The secrecy with which they surrounded their worship made people fear the worst. Christianity came from the East, thus they were immigrants that formed a sect and that was viewed as dangerous to the status quo. The persecutions of Christians began. Anti-Christian writings have come down through Christians who used them to refute them.

1. There were three main accusations against the Christians:

a. They were atheists! They did not take part in the traditional or imperial worship. It was assumed that they had no religion. This mind set was unheard of in these ancient times. It threatened the stability of the city. They people thought that their rejected gods would come to destroy the empire through floods, earthquakes, plagues and invasions by hostile tribes. Christians were thought to worship some sort of donkey or a crucified thief.

b. Christians practiced incest! When they got together for their evening meals, it was only to indulge in orgies, and the worst kinds of wickedness between 'brothers and sisters'.

c. They were cannibals! The flesh and blood which they consumed was that of a child victim of ritual murder.

While the gossipers continued to spread the rumors about Christianity, the intellectuals began to refute this new religion on intellectual grounds. Celcus, in the second century and Porphyry in the third, launched their attacks in three directions.

a. Ignorant and Pretentious Poor--they recruited from the socially inferior classes of people. They concentrated on women, children and slaves. Christians sapped both marital and parental authority.

b. Bad Citizens--they did not participate in the empire's worship. They rejected military and magistracy service. Caesar was currently fighting the Germans on the banks of the Danube and if all citizens acted like Christians there would have been no empire.

c. Christian doctrine was unreasonable--the incarnation is nonsense. God who is perfect, unchangeable, would never allow himself to become a tiny baby. The resurrection was nothing but a monstrous lie. The four accounts of the passion of Christ contradict themselves. (still valid argument today, the gospels do not agree on what exactly happened) Christian ceremonies were immoral. Even if interpreted allegorically, the Eucharist was still a cannibalistic ritual. Even Christian sects condemn each other for the other's practices.

"There is a new race of men born yesterday, with neither homeland nor traditions, allied against all religions and civil institutions, pursued by justice, universally notorious for their infamy, but glorying in common execration: these are Christians. Their injunctions are like this. 'Let no one educated, no one wise, no one sensible draw near. For these abilities are thought by us to be evils. But as for anyone ignorant, anyone stupid, anyone uneducated, anyone who is a child, let him come boldly. By the fact that they themselves admit that these people are worthy of their God, they show that they want and are able to convince only the foolish, dishonorable and stupid, and only slaves, women and little children "

"The assertion that some God or son of God has come down to the earth as judge of mankind is most shameful, and no lengthy argument is required to refute it. What is the purpose of such a descent on the part of God? Was it in order to learn what was going on among common men? Does not he know everything? If then he does know, why does he not correct men, and why can he not do this by divine power, without sending some one, specially endowed for the purpose ."

"If Christians refuse to worship in the proper way the lords in charge of them, then they ought neither to come to marriageable age nor to marry a wife, nor to beget children, nor to do anything else in life. But they should depart from this world leaving no descendants at all behind them, so that such a race would entirely cease to exist upon earth. But if they are going to marry wives, and beget children, and taste of the fruits, and partake of the joys of this life, and endure the appointed evils, then they ought to render the due honors to the beings who have been entrusted with these things "
- Celcus, 170 AD

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The Flight Attendant and Me

by Thirdson in

jw
friends

in politically correct america the wait staff on airliners are not termed stewards and stewardesses but rather flight attendants.

after joel bear (no offense joel, and i love you like a brother, but no more .

six years ago i was living in an apartment in the minneapolis suburbs.

bboyneko

like the iceskating world, the majority of male flight attendants are gay.

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Anyone into on-line games?

by wannahelp in

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friends

hey,.

how about we get together and play some on-line games?.

yahoo has great card games.. or how about some chess.. .

bboyneko

I play stacraft, half-life: counter-strike, tribes 2, and I am looking forward to Wolfenstein 2: Return to castle wolfenstein. THe multiplayer demo I have played is breathtaking.

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Enterprise- new Star Trek series

by GoingNuts in

anybody want to chat about this sub or about any other startrek stuff, am a big tng,voyager fan.

sorry ds9 does nothing for me but will still chat about it.

seen the movie trekkies?

bboyneko

i watched the first 2 episodes then got bored of it fast. Too formulaic and very very unoriginal. So far a disapointing series.

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J.W's gonna see Harry P ?

by wheelwithinwheel in

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friends

harry potter is getting great reviews.

looks pretty satanic!

how many witnesses are gonna go see the movie?

bboyneko

I have a ton of robotech/macross transforming jets. I don't get things off ebay as much cus its expensiver, but if you want it mint in box you gotta get it thru ebay definitley. Most of my toys i dont mind if they are played with and missing parts. So thrift stors it is, You can get entire bags of my little ponies for $1.50 They are missing accessories and some have marks on them, but hey its $1.50 :)

Thats cool you got all that stuff.

Here is an example of the kind of toys I like that don't transform, you can imagine how these look on the sehlf next to care bears and wuzzles.

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Reaching JWs with humor..

by Introspection in

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i was thinking, since the main problem seems to be that witnesses usually won't open up.

well, there seems to be no shortage of funny human behavior, so why couldn't this work?

of course, it isn't a matter of laughing at them.. perhaps point out some behavior that wouldn't be readily identified with witnesses (but does fit) and go from there...

bboyneko

well if you are wrong, you have lost it all, if I am wrong I have lost nothing.

I beleive that if you do not put on a chicken suit and dance the sacred chicken dance to Richard Simmons 'Sweatin to the Oldies' once a day at noon god will kill you at an undetermined time, or you might not get into rubber chicken land when you die.

If I am wrong, then I have lost nothing right? But if you dont do as I beleive you will surely die!

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J.W's gonna see Harry P ?

by wheelwithinwheel in

jw
friends

harry potter is getting great reviews.

looks pretty satanic!

how many witnesses are gonna go see the movie?

bboyneko

Moe, I just got a 1984 Gizmo with his tags all attached and even the original pricetag of $19.99 (in 1984 money that must be like $30 today ouch) I got him for only $3 at a thrift store. Hes cute. I got some thundercats lunch boxes, aall the he-mans, wuzzles, popples, and tons of my little ponies (saffrons collection) and rainbow brites, mostly from thrift stores. Cool huh? Yeah the remembrall malfroy is hard, the two other limited edition ones I havent even seen!

I mainly collect todd mcfarlane toys, the best damn scuplting on the planet.

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J.W's gonna see Harry P ?

by wheelwithinwheel in

jw
friends

harry potter is getting great reviews.

looks pretty satanic!

how many witnesses are gonna go see the movie?

bboyneko

Do you have ths invisibility cloak harry potter? Hes hard to find.