Unless the elder I spoke with gets his voices confused, he actually received an mp3 of the song sung by Prince (he was a former Bethelite and both he and his spouse were special pioneers). So that part I believe is real.
Midget-Sasquatch
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Some JWs are in a Tizzy
by Kenneson ina pirated cd with kingdom melodies, first said to have been done by george benson and prince and their wives and later by george benson and celine dion and still later by george benson and an anonymous sister, is creating a stir in jehovist circles.
someone became suspicious and called george benson who told him that it was stolen by a brother who had left patterson and was put on a cd and distributed illegally.
someone else called the audiovisual dept.
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Money Deals for Assemblies--JWs Not Willing to Pay!
by Voyager inhttp://www.kristv.com/global/story.asp?s=2637357&nav=bsmgtjoz .
http://www.kristv.com/global/story.asp?s=2637357&nav=bsmgtjoz .
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Midget-Sasquatch
$10,000 US to rent someone else's facility was too much for them?
I know for a fact...I was unfortunately there to hear it....that expenses for the 2 day CA at their own London, Ontario Assembly Hall was just over $10,000 CA. Of course a sizable part of that is the ludicrous donation they decide upon beforehand. And as of Sun morning they were supposedly still about 6 grand in the whole for that weekend.
I agree with you both Blondie and Czar. The CAs and DAs are horrible and I've seen more and more people not show up, or arrive very late for morning and afternoon sessions.
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Why ? Why? WHY???
by rune inthis topic has been rolling around in my head for some time.
i don't expect that i'll write it perfectly as it needs to be articulated in different ways for different people...but i will do my best.
and worst of all, i am not expecting any kind of response that will satisfy me.
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Midget-Sasquatch
Being a bio major, I was very fascinated with Persinger's work on temporal lobe stimulation, and its induction of supernatural/paranormal experiences. (I was an ET nut since I was a little kid.) It does weaken the argument for the existence of the mystical or supernatural to a Thomas-y person like me, but it doesn't negate it. As LT rightly pointed out if even such a module were to exist, couldn't one just as logically say that atheists have underdeveloped ones?
From an evolutionary/material standpoint, one could argue that this sort of belief was necessary and beneficial for the early human mind. It would help it deal with its awareness of eventual death. It would help them remain sane and continue forward, rather than become dysfunctional (insane) and paralyzed by the prospect of a futile existence.
Editted to add: Quantum mechanics and "spooky action at a distance" are way too counterintuitive for this chimp!!!! But Frankiespeaking is right in how limited are views are even on what most would call objective reality....can we really be judgmental with the spiritual then? <---------- (Its the local agnostics club's membership drive can you tell? )
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NHL Lockout... Whatever Shall We Dooooo?!?!
by Scully inso, it sounds like the nhl and the players association is deadlocked and there's no contract.
the owners want to put a cap on the players' salaries and the players say no deal to that.
if there's no hockey this season, have you thought about how you're going to occupy hockey nights??.
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Midget-Sasquatch
Our beer commercials always manage to cheer me up in some way or other, but this latest one is too funny!
As for what I'm doing.....now you OHLers don't get upset with me....I've been following the Hamilton Bulldogs in the AHL. I can go see live games at Copps (I'm close to Steel town) and the OTHER teams are actually very skilled. The Bulldogs are currently at the bottom of their division.
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Do believers and unbelievers benefit from each other?
by Narkissos ini was thinking of this today.
we all live in religiously divided societies: in france unbelievers are probably the majority, in the us believers are.
but the minority in both cases is still influential.
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Midget-Sasquatch
Tactful skeptics can do a great service to believers. The questions and arguments they present to believers, can help believers to modify some of their beliefs, so that their paradigm is less discordant with reality. It hopefully can help eliminate alot of superstitions, and get the believers focussed on the few aspects of the religion that may actually benefit society. Rather than squabbling over unprovable details that only divides people.
Personally, as an agnostic, seeing all the believers about me, has made me question what do they sense or perceive that I don't? I'm not so interested in the details because here's no way to disprove or prove them. But their living by a moral code, has encouraged me to be more introspective, to reflect on my actions and motives, and to... how can I put it?....find the better part of me. Still looking.
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Wierd Stuff
by SWALKER ini know this may sound strange but i would like some input on the following.
i have a handful of friends (some in the org and some out) that are saying that "god" is talking to them.
he is communicating directly or using an angel.
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Midget-Sasquatch
In the early fifties, when the ufo flaps were making media headlines, there were the 'contactees". They claimed that ETs enlisted them as their envoys to humanity. The ETs were warning them about impending doom and to make changes to avert it. This was right smack in the escalating phase of the Cold War and everyone realized how dangerous the Nuclear Age could be for the planet. Many contactees portrayed the ETs as caring and wise, some even calling them the "Space Brothers". Not that much of a stretch to look at the situation today with the new terrorism, and expect a modern version of this phenomenon. With those people you know, the motifs and content are fed by the WT instead of pop culture.
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Jehovah Witness struck by lighning while entering a Catholic church.
by hubert inwell, it's not true yet, that i know of, but according to the beliefs and fears of j.w.
's this should be the headlines every week if it's the "truth".. i've heard stories of ex-j.w.
's believing they would be struck by lightning if they went into a catholic church.
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Midget-Sasquatch
Despite the standing, sitting, standing, kneeling, routine of the Catholic Mass, I enjoyed it more than a JW meeting. Even as a child, I could sit in there and feel soothed by the ambience, or enjoy the acoustics. I liked how we would offer those around us in the pews peace and shake each others hands.
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U2 Yahweh
by peacefulpete ini can't be the first to comment on this but if it was not mentioned before u2's new album has a track titled "yahweh".
here are the lyrics:u2 lyrics.
take these shoes.
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Midget-Sasquatch
I remember when I first heard "Sunday Bloody Sunday", and wondered who's singing and what's that all about. I've been enjoying their mix of message and music every since. Still haven't gotten their new CD. I'll admit I've got a "baser", that also enjoys the relatively more hedonistic Def Leppard.
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jw meaning please
by A Paduan in.
what do the wtbts / jws think this means ?
"when the unclean spirit has gone out of a man, he passes through waterless places seeking rest; and finding none he says, `i will return to my house from which i came.
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Midget-Sasquatch
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w52 3/15 p. 191 Questions from Readers ***?
What do Jesus? words at Matthew 12:43-45 mean??R. D., California.A man who has been possessed with a demon and gets rid of it has a vacuum left. This vacuum or emptiness left by the evacuation of the demon is to be filled with the Lord?s spirit, with a faith backed up by works in harmony with God?s Word. Then when the demon returns he would not find the person, likened unto the demon?s house, "unoccupied but swept clean and adorned." Instead, he would find the place he had vacated filled with a stronger spirit, Jehovah?s active force, and the demon spirit would not be able to reoccupy this person. Apparently in the case Jesus was discussing the person freed of a demon left the vacuum unfilled, not taking up Jehovah?s service and making room for Jehovah?s spirit in his life, but merely cleaning himself up and adorning himself in a visible show of piety. Such a person will not be able to prevent the return of the demon spirit, and in his relapse his plight worsens, more demon spirits than before occupying him.
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Could You Post Here Then Return To The KH?
by Englishman inis it possible for someone to post reams of anti-jw stuff at this site, then repent for what they have done and go back to the kingdom hall to become fully-fledged witnesses once more?.
a couple of posters that i have met personally and spent mutually enjoyable exchanges with, have actually disappeared off the face of the earth and covered their tracks behind them.
i'm sure that in at least one instance, the guy has returned to the fold.. maybe it's me that they can't abide and it's nothing to do with jw's!!.
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Midget-Sasquatch
If they meant all the stuff they posted on this board and read all the other posts with an open mind, then I can't see how they could go back in mind and heart. If they make a full about-face, then they've been letting their fears about uncertainty or an unhealthy need for approval get the best of them.
Am I one to talk though? In my thirties but now and again, subjecting myself to the drivel at assemblies or the KH, just to lap up drips of approval from Daddy and Mommy?
Knowing reality changes you though, and its obvious even to the dubs at the KH since now you are notably "spiritually weaker".