Posts by karategirl

"Why don't we turn to our Bibles and read _________" or "Let's open our Bibles for the answer to that question" (actual meaning, let's open our bibles and then let the society tell us what it means.)

As the End Draws Nearer

"I had a really encouraging experience today in the field"

"won't it be great in the New Order when we will never die"

the Youth

"We're Jehovah's Witnesses, we speak out in fearlessness, ours is the god of true prophecy, what he fortells comes to be"

"Why don't we listen to some Kingdom Melodies and sing along"

"The best way we can help people is to bring them the Good News about God's Kingdom" (answer given when I asked to work for the Special Olympics at school and was told to not get involved)

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"Saved" the movie, does it remind you of any OTHER organizations?

by gaiagirl in

i just watched "saved" with mandy moore and makauley culkin, about some kids in a so called "christian" high school.

some of the kids are very, very zealous, others quieter, others openly rebellious.

as the story unfolds, it becomes apparant who those are who are actually observing the teachings of jesus, and who are just giving lip service.

karategirl

That's the whole point Mungo. They are the same themes because quite often in organized religion these are the things that happen.

I laughed hysterically. Yeah it was an exaggeration in that most likely each problem existed by itself and not all at once to one girl and her peers. Oh and the jewish chick said she had been kicked out of all the Jewish private schools and it was there or military I believe so she went there.

I happened to know two men that struggled with the whole gay thing and went through the same problems. Even dating girls and trying to figure it out by fornicating. In the end one left the org to live with his secret boyfriend. The other stayed in and never left home and stuffed his face until he was just as obese as his mother. My best JW friend from high school finally left after living in an abusive family her whole life, being sexually abused and being looked down upon by the dubs because she wasn't spiritual enough and was white trash. She finally began pioneering and still wasn't accepted. So her and her pioneer buddy left the org together and now are lesbian lovers. Trust me the extremes do happen.

All Christians sin and make mistakes. It takes a true Christian to admit it, learn from it, and move on. Those that obsess over their works and remind everyone how good and angelic they are all the time only go through the motions because their faith really isn't that deep. Which is why they are capable of intentionally malicious behavior such as Mandy Moore's character.

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Another Question to ask everyone!

by whyamihere in

ok, i have a question that popped in my head!.

what is one song you listen to and you love but are to embarrassed to admit it!.

mine is by abba ....fernando!.

karategirl

I know all the songs on the Annie soundtrack and have even, when I was younger ok, choreograped a few numbers.

I'm also still rockin with Guns N Roses and Bon Jovi. "Sweet Child o Mine" and "Dead or Alive". my hair oddly resembles bon jovi's tossled layered look. My friends tease me that I have that 80s rockstar cut.

A final and ultimate shame is I actually liked Britney Spears "Toxic". But mainly because the video had great special effects and she was a vixen surrounded by some hottie boys.

oK I mayhave revealed too much.

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Missed oppourtunities as a JW kid?

by kwintestal in

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jw kids are repressed in every aspect of their lives, creatively, intellectually, atheletically...the list goes on.. what did you love to do as a kid, yet weren't permitted to do?.

i personally loved football as a kid.

other jw kids and i would play every weekend until the subject was brought up at an assembly as being competitive.

karategirl

Sweetp-

Keep up the good work and don't stop trying. This is my sixth year in college but you know what, today I filled out my gradution petition and will have a BA in June. Even if I never make more money or have an upper level job, the fact that I stuck it out and will have it after all those years of waste, No ONe, no one can take it away from me ever.

You Rock and you are gonna get your'n too!!!!!! Stick it to 'em!! Yeah!!!!!

KG

I am running on very little sleep right now. Only one more final on saturday and I can sleep all day sunday.

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should i move out?

by crizlee in

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my situation is getting worse, i told my parents im going to move out in 6 months once i turn 18 whether i get to go to college or enlist into the navy.

my over zealous mom says that i can move out tomorrow.

now i have lots of friends at school, ive only hung out with few not that long but ive known em forever, should i burden them with me asking to move in with them?

karategirl

Just another note on planning. I was told when I was 16 that I would be kicked out upon graduation (my stepfather already kicked out my two olders sisters, one a week after her grad). Seeing how my sisters had scrambled with no warning to get things going I prepared.

At school they offered school credit through the business department if you worked. So, it helped me graduate, save money, gain work experience, and be away from home more.

Upon graduation, I paid for a used car in cash, packed up my sh** and roled out. Already had a job going and found a friend that had a room for rent. Six months later after saving more money I moved into a studio apartment.

Planning makes all the difference. Not sure how your credits are working with school but I believe most schools have programs like I mentioned above.

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Being a JW Woman - Was It Really That Bad?

by eljefe in

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i have seen quite a few posts from many ex-jw women about how unhappy they were about male domination in congregation.

was it really that bad?

when i was still a jw, no one ever told me anything to that effect.

karategirl

My mother was in an abusive marriage for ten years. She frequently went to the elders and asked for permission to leave. She was told she could only leave for adultery. The only reason for separation was if her life was in danger or he was no longer caring for her basic needs such as starving her. So they worried about her dying of starvation but she had to have an attempt on her life before the abuse was bad enough to let her leave, TEMPORARILY. When she finally had the guts to leave, she died and on her death bed agreed to reunite with her husband to make sure Jah knew she was faithful to the end. CRAP!!!!

As a result, even after I was out of the borg, I married an abusive worldly man and still followed the same JW principles about it all. Used to tell myself if I was the best wife I could be and set a good example he would realize my value and change himself. CRAP!!!! Vomit!!!! Vomit!!!!

Oh and as to the equality in the workforce. The reason we have things like The Equal Pay Act and Title VII is because things are still not fully equal. A professor once told me in relation to minority classes, including women, is that we now have ACCESS due to legislation and education but OPPORTUNITY is still not there for many because the majority of those in power are still not minority members and still don't want to lose that hold. Although things are not as outrightly discriminating and biggotted (sp?), underlying stereotypes and asuumptions still exist.

My last boss, in a company where I was the only female manager (and made not only less than the market rate for my position but 30-50% less than other male managers), once told me that he gives raises to men whether they deserve them or not because they have families to support. I had just recently before this incident spent an hour arguing with him about my raise which was only 25% the amount the man received. He wasn't even a supervisor and had been with the company fewer years than me. Plus I was a single mom and he had a wife. When we had manager meetings most of the time he did not invite me, I would find out from other managers. then when I arrived he had started without me. My input was never asked for and my assigned tasks were always secretarial. When I interjected my opinion he was always shocked and ignored my comment. If I gave a good idea he never used it until a man later gave the same suggestion. Then he accepted it without question or supporting evidence.

We have come a long way baby but there is so much more road to cover. When will we see a woman in the white house for instance?

Oh and many of those nagging wives were a result of bitterness over their unfulfilled and unimportant existence. Many of them in cases I know usually were verbally and physically abusive to their children. They hate their lives but are trapped so they lock on to someone around them that doesn't fight back. Since they can't control their own life they control others. This exists even outside the borg.

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What do you think some posters look like?

by Bubbamar in

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its funny that when i imagine what other posters look like - i alway imagine them as attractive, fit, well groomed, with bright, shiny happy faces.

i never see them as obese, nerdy, or with greasy hair and warts and pimples.

their noses are never too big - no body has a "comb-over.

karategirl

I know when I first got on many asked if I was Asian. Far from it. I'm a very pale german/swede decendant with blonde hair and blue eyes. Plenty of T&A too. I always try and picture people. Every thread I read where people are from and look at their age. Always looking for people that live close to me. It is hard to discern ethnicities which is weird. I find it more interesting to be in a mixed crowd. I live in a very diverse neighborhood and wouldn't have it any other way. I really pay attention to the posters outside of the US.

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The What would you do game

by Stefanie in

okay, i am in a playfull mood today .

i will ask a what would you do question, and the next person answers what they would do in that situation, then goes on to ask their own question.

what would you do if when you woke up in the morning you were 10 years younger?

karategirl

Will answer the last question also. If I could change anything in the world it would be to end all forms of abuse. What would you do if you had a chronic illness and had two months to live?

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What Are Some of Your Favorite Urban Legends About JWs???

by minimus in

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periodically, we post about what we realize were good fables that were spoken as "gospel".

smurfs running up and down the aisles of the hall is a well known one......any you remember???

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karategirl

I too heard about demonized objects not burning. Also heard about a woman that had found a book in her home awhile after she had been studying she forgot to throw away. It was on the occult. It was late at night so she put it on her front porch and was going to walk it out to the garbage in the morning. Apparently she heard noises in the night outside her window and no one was there. When she woke up in the morning the book was laying on the kitchen table. She of course tried to burn it and it wouldn't burn. Not sure how she finally got rid of this indestructable object. All this demon stuff is such a trip. Don't forget about playing metal records backwards would say satanic things. Also that AC/DC stands for Against Christ Devil's Children and KISS stands for Knights in Satan's Service. I also remember hearing this stuff from non-JW sources too.