witnessing unjust treatment by elders and seeing others unjustly treated by such - had a big impact on me seeing through the facade that was the organization called jehovah's witnesses.
being raised in it 44 years i observed many times congregation elders operating their crew of " fellow elders " like a good old boys club in which although it was called a " body " of elders ; nevertheless still one elder dominated others and the lesser elders fell into line with what the " chief " or prime elder said would go down.
when leaving the organization in late 2003 - i questioned my own father, an elder for over 50 years about the unjust treatment i had received at the hand of such men.
Flipper,
You are preaching to the choir, my brother! Too many stories to tell!
Did you have some congregations with a "Super Elder," that no other elder would dare correct. We had that, and others with "groupthink" that couldn't make individual decisions.
JK
graduating from college right next to bethel........and a gilead grad......too much.........and did you guys know he is the valedictorian.....like top score there.........awesome!.............inspirational!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
but you may want to slow down a bit dammit.............oompa.
you are now a serious pain in the ass for wt.........college and bailing on your gilead skills......hope that does not need two l's bthw.
so i've been seeing this jw girl for a couple weeks now... she kind of contacted me out of the blue (i've known her since i was 4, shes two years older than i) and wanted to hook up for coffee or something.
i avoided it for about half a month.
not really avoided it, but was going to have fun with it when it came, because i thought she was just going to try to encourage me to go to meetings and whatnot.. so, first time she calls me up at like 9:30pm on a weeknight to come over to her house... so i ride my bicycle over and go inside and she and her cousin were getting drunk on alcohol and they started getting me to drink.
Min,
Be careful, I would hate to see you get hurt.
Carlos,
You get a grip, and listen and learn:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR2lU0_0d-U&feature=related
JK
trying to remember what it is i have been supposed to be doing since monday.
don't have a clue.. my daughter ran away and all her stupid ass friends are not giving her up.
the police are looking and nothing.
Thank God or whomever, I am happy for you Decki!
JK
tonight i feel like being bad....you know....egg someones house or something....maybe smoke a cigarette.....drink whiskey straight....sneak into a concert without tickets.....short sheet my cousins bed...... so, are you bad or are you good?.
On second thought,
I think you need an Acid cigar to contemplate . . . Enjoy the aroma . . .
JK
tonight i feel like being bad....you know....egg someones house or something....maybe smoke a cigarette.....drink whiskey straight....sneak into a concert without tickets.....short sheet my cousins bed...... so, are you bad or are you good?.
Bad or good?,
It depends upon the circumstances. Just survive!
((((((((((((((((((((((((Tani)))))))))))))))))))))))))))
JK
recently my husband and i moved south to an area known as the 'bible belt' for his job.
we are northerners and from a liberal area.
i just cannot seem to tolerate the amount of 'shut-up and put-up' around here.
I have always rebelled at authority.
I had dominating elders that didn't give a crap about my well being. My father was an unbeliever, a lunatic drunk. Therefore I always was a bit sarcastic to superiors, which has hurt me at times. I still do not settle for the status quo.
JK
okay, so i have this talk tonight and i forgot all about it.
anyone on here have this talk and can post it here for me??????????.
or if you feel inclined you can write it for me!
si74,
We used to refer to that as a WIG. You had to have an "improved" after a "weak," before you could get a "good." Sheesh!
JK
just can't seem to shake this double-life persona....probably because as a born in dub, i started faking flag salute and pledge of alliegence in third grade....who want to feel like a freak in third grade...geeze.. double-life went into high gear though starting with junior high school and those damn breasts started poppin out!
how could you not want play with those?
so for me....school boobs were way easier than kingdom hall boobs....way safer too.
Oomp,
I enjoyed talking to the Virgin tonight (even though it is just your phone).
JK
i know of quite a few that did , some have never been found out , are they asked by the elders before the wedding if they have done it ?
I actually know of one where both the groom and his elder father both did it with the bride before the KH wedding.
JK
