i was talking with my older two boys.
they were really glad we stopped going to the kh and being practicing jw.
they went on and told me about things they thought.
i remember when my mom died, i was told, 'well now she will be in the new system'. and i was to find comfort in that instead of dealing with the loss. it was almost like, don't grieve, at least she made it.
and alot of bros and sisters are so tired and worn out, i can see that maybe they wish they could just go to sleep....remember the scripture that says 'in a blink of an eye'?
after watching "the fifth estate" and knowing that the legal department at bethel has a list of offenders, by law, cant someone demand a copy of that list?
this probably was talked about years ago, but i just saw it, so im a little behind.
hasnt the law just changed, that all clergy have to report these situations?
is there a list for canada that one can access??
yes i know the standard answer - they want to sell books but hang on a minute.. .
something that has always bothered me is that the average jw is incapable of explaining some of the most basic teachings without a wt book in hand.
after all those years, all that time, all those meetings, why is it so hard to understand and teach to someone else?
i remember when new publications came out...the brothers and sisters would read them and get little nuggets out of them ...for example....'the end is coming soon' or 'the end is coming shortley' or 'we are getting close' or 'so close to the end'...on and on it would go....we would read way more into it, than was actually said...
ahhh well, it kept us going
how are jw's treated by the cong when they have a ubm?
on one hand they could hold them up as how wonderful they are for suffering such persecution but on the other hand wouldn't they be looked down upon because they couldn't even get their own spouse 'in'?
if you can't even get your own spouse to believe how well could you do in service?
what richie rich says...is the god's truth, the kids are treated very badly...makes them feel real welcome...
joanne
how are jw's treated by the cong when they have a ubm?
on one hand they could hold them up as how wonderful they are for suffering such persecution but on the other hand wouldn't they be looked down upon because they couldn't even get their own spouse 'in'?
if you can't even get your own spouse to believe how well could you do in service?
depends, if you cried the blues all the time, you got lots of attention.
joanne
just wondering if this happened to any of you.
did you ever go to the service group and be assigned to the different car groups.....and then....the sister that is assigned to go with you...decline and say...'i am just going by myself today and do my return vistits by myself'..... damn, i should have complained about that one!
it was very rude!
just wondering if this happened to any of you. did you ever go to the service group and be assigned to the different car groups.....and then....the sister that is assigned to go with you...decline and say...'i am just going by myself today and do my return vistits by myself'....
damn, i should have complained about that one! it was very rude! me and the other sister were shocked!
joanne
my daughter has been diagnosed with chronic fatigue syndrome/fibromyalgia.
several questions: are they one in the same, are there any good web sites to look over?
also, when she was young she was abused/molested over a several year period.
hi quentin
i myself, suffered from the fibromyalgia for many years. i had the muscle ache, headach, depression, sleeping problems, chronically tired, very stressed out. i got a very nice doctor who understood what i was going through. he gave me paxil for depression and panic attacks. amitriptyline and a mild sleeping pill for sleep. i must say, this did not start to really work for me until, alot of what was causing the stress in my life, was out of my life. bad marriage and trying to raise children on my own, while on welfare. i divorced my husband and the kids went to live with him. it was only then, that i could get the rest i needed and started working, i barely get a headach now (its been 3 years). but i still do tire easily, so i do require alot of rest. all i can say is, know your limits, and pray for positive change in your life's circumstances. eat well, and get some fresh air and exercise.
hope this helps
joanne
ive read coc and isocf and they destroyed my faith in the society and faith in man.
ive officially gone inactive in the last 2 months.
ive had several email conversations with ray franz that have also made me more convinced that i could never be an active jw again.
Hi Panic....dont despair, it will all shake out....just ride it out and dont worry. you will find that time heals, and you will find that its not so bad 'in the world'. dont try and rush yourself or your wife. and be there for your wife, love her and support her as she goes through all the feelings she goes through. and one thing i remembered for myself through all this, is that God is a God of love...he knows us and understands us better than any man or society on earth....and he will always be with you no matter what...just tell him you love him but you cannot belong to a society that does the things it does...be honest with God. and you will find the peace you are looking for...
wishing you all the best...
joanne
i have a question i hope someone can answer for me.. my folks are sick and elderly dubs and i worry the borg will hasten their death.
they have those ridiculous blood card with an advanced directives pre-printed on them.
they also have a person from the cong designated as their surrogate?
hi dragonlady, I dont know what the real law is about all this, but i do know of one instance where an older brother was in a car accident, had his blood cards, and the two brothers came to stand up for him, but, when his own sons came along and said no bloody way...the brothers backed off...it was like the family had more right than the blood cards did. or maybe it depends...the brothers may have not wanted to really interveen if the family members were adament about the whole thing. but anyways, the brother did die, too many injuries. but at least his sons were left alone and not pressured to do the wts's will. i dont know, but all i do know, is leave the family alone when they are going through this, no one but family has the right to make decisions for the person at a time like that.
joanne
i mean, for forty years believing the witness lie it always made me wonder.. judas was the keeper of the money box - and there are statements that indicated that the apostles thought that wasting money that could be used to aid the poor was sinful - so indications are that the earliest christians were doing charitible works.
of course there are many scriptural passages that encourage that activity among believers.
today all the organization ever does is pay lip service to charity.
oh man o man, did this ever bother me. i was a single mom on welfare with 4 boys and it was wrong to take food from the salvation army....but in our community, it was the only food bank. soooo what was i to do....so i did take and i felt very guilty for doing so. but then again, some bros and sisters shopped at the sally anne, while others would not. and i must say that a couple of times i did get help, but when you are really broke, its an ongoing thing of not been able to buy enough food....so its a struggle every month to make ends meet. and i just hated getting help from the congregation book study like that. and what use to make me really mad was how one older sister bragged on how much food was in her freezer...she just did not know what to do with it....that really pissed me off...she knew my situation and the situation of the other sister that was with us....did she offer to help out and share...nooooo.
I always thought that there should have been a food pantry in the kingdom hall....but it never was done...
ohhh and one time, i did get food from the bros and sisters and some were really good, fresh meat, treats for the kids, but some donated stale out of date stuff...
I guess what i am trying to say is that they should be more community minded and not lay on the guilt to bros and sisters when they do have to reach out for help.
anyways thats my 2 cents worth to the discussion
joanne
