The easiest way is to declare that the number 144,000 is symbolic instead of literal.
They NEVER can do that, because it is a doctrine that does them different and for that they believed they have the truth.
there's been several posts the past few days about the issues raised when the society dropped the "1935 as the end of the selection of the anointed" doctrine in may 2007 and reinforced the teaching with the 1/15/08 wt.. many ideas have been thrown out regarding how the society will be able to "spin" the almost assured large jump in memorial partakers this year and in following years.. it suddenly hit me how they can do it, and come out smelling like a rose:.
(warning: speculation ahead!).
go back to the "2 class" heavenly calling!.
The easiest way is to declare that the number 144,000 is symbolic instead of literal.
They NEVER can do that, because it is a doctrine that does them different and for that they believed they have the truth.
i dont post too often but im always lurking from my workplace.
but now i feel the need to ask for any advise from you guys.
a while back, when i decided i had enough of the wt internal politics and the wait on jah attitude, i faded away from the hall and basically disappeared into the night.
Well, my first words were Oh my God!
_Atlas, thank you very much for your concern. You know me and know that I cried reading this. When we talked, I told you don’t have to feel bad, because even when I’m living this, I feel calm and good. I preferred the truth that lives a lie. So do not be so hard with you is not your fault.
For everyone here, THANK for your words. I really need to read things like this. It is not easy for me, because like _Atlas said, death was (really IS) something that I do not want to talk.
It is VERY HARD that I’m loosing my family, also it's hard tell my family things like resurrection, that Jehovah is always with his servants, He loves you, etc. I know that my family feel better, but I feel like a hypocrite and heard the elders and brothers make me sick. I really can't believe that in the past I said and believed that “s…t”, but that’s another story.
In this moment I ask my self what I believed, but with honesty “Do not know”, only knows for sure that do not believed anything from JW.
Well, _Atlas, ones again thank you and like almost everyone said, I really need someone to talk and cry (A LOT, yes you know me) and you are doing this, THANKS!
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alright i'm being sarcastic.... let me tell you why i said that.
i had to preach this saturday, i do not want to talk with nobody, but i do not had any excuse not to, so i talked in this house and the girl ask me to bring her the magazines because she love to read it.. i laughed later thinking that in another time i would think it was god sending me a "sheep", someone with study the bible.
Alright I'm being sarcastic...
Let me tell you why I said that. I had to preach this saturday, i do not want to talk with nobody, but i do not had any excuse not to, so i talked in this house and the girl ask me to bring her the magazines because she love to read it.
I laughed later thinking that in another time i would think it was God sending me a "sheep", someone with study the bible.
i just did some rough (haha) figuring to determine how many days i spent just sitting at the hall during meetings.
i just rounded to the nearest year to be liberal in take into account missed meetings and the like.
i know the number is higher but i dont feel like getting more exact.. this just counts regular meeting times, not before and after fellowship, not fs, meeting prep, or assemblies.. i came up with 349 days.
OH!!! I hate this subject because I'm still losing my time in there. Sorry I should say, I spend my time learning, I do not know what.
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i remember being told, that resurrected ones would't be allowed to get married, although the great crowd who lived through armageddon could get married if they wished to.. .
Seems to me that the sin of Adan and Eva was sex and not disobedience. Therefore they cannot be married in the New System because is a "sin".
did anyone catch last night?s law and order?
the plot was about a cult that had a history of child molestation and when accusations surfaced, the leader said that kind of thing is not tolerated and those involved were expelled from the church.
hmmmm?who does that sound like?
They had a few like that, but in one of them the priest tell everything to the cops and was expelled from the church. The other one, was someone with a high rank more than a priest, I do not know how they call it, anyway the cops take him prisioner...
was it being able to join the theocratic ministry school?
being a regular pioneer?
"handling microphones"?
When I was in bethel, Milton Henschel lived in the room right above me. I could smell the holy spirit seeping throught the ceiling into my room.
LOL
But i believed that holy spirit with the GB it was so wonderful and special.
Anyway, my "greatest privilege", was been a pioneer for six year.
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ive heard that the new om book now includes 10 questions which a study must answer correctly before becoming a publisher.
does anybody know these questions and would be able to post them on here?
Tottaly agree with this:
10) Have you given up your right to think for yourself?
Of course I lied on the doors and in the KH too
this idea came to while i was in the chat... i got a couple... you guys chip in with whatever ya got.. "i'd rather be posting on jwd" and.
"my other car is an office chair".
i know those are weak- but somebody's got some good ones...
"Jehovah's Witness, we can live without them"