Posts by BERNARD

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THE HONEST HEART, PLEASE READ

by BERNARD in

jw
friends

by veronica a. shoffstal.

after a while, you learn the subtle difference.

between holding a hand and chaining a soul,.

After a while, you learn the subtle difference
Between holding a hand and chaining a soul,
And you learn that love doesn't mean leaning
And company doesn't mean security,
And you begin to learn that kisses aren't contracts
And presents aren't promises,
And you begin to accept your defeats
With your head up and your eyes open,
With the grace of a human, not the grief of a child,
And you learn to build all your roads on today
Because tomorrow's ground is too uncertain for plans,
And futures have a way of falling down in mid-flight.
And after a while, you learn
That even sunshine burns if you get too much.
So you plant your own garden and decorate your own soul,
Instead of waiting for someone to bring you flowers.
And you learn that you really can endure...
That you really are strong
And you really do have worth
And you learn and learn...
With every goodbye,you learn.

A POEM DEDICATED TO ALL OF YOU WHO HAD THE HEART TO STAND UP FOR
THE REAL "truth" IN YOUR HEARTS and walk away FROM TOTALITARIAN
RELIGION.

THE REAL TRUTH STANDS THE TEST OF TIME IT, WILL NOT CHANGE, IF IT DOES ITS A LIE.The sun will rise, The sun will set,AN EXAMPLE of The real TRUTH nobody can change.

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having fun with Robert

by seven006 in

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friends

in another thread robert (you know) and i had a connection.

i learned that he use to roll joints with bible pages.

i did the same as a jw teen.

BERNARD

APPLAUD,APPLAUD

THE REAL TRUTH STANDS THE TEST OF TIME IT, WILL NOT CHANGE, IF IT DOES ITS A LIE.The sun will rise, The sun will set,AN EXAMPLE of The real TRUTH nobody can change.

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LIES in Current Watchtower!

by Eusebius Hieronymus in

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friends

after posting on the maximus nourishment for the spirit thread about elaine pagel's "the origin of satan" and "adam, eve, and the serpent," i check my mail and find the watchtower for august 15, and a qfr (whole page) answering the question, "for how long a period of time did job suffer.".

they say "job's suffering and its resolution may have occurred within a few months, perhaps less than a year.

" blah, blah, tribulation momentary and light, blah, blah, christ will himself finish your training.

BERNARD

Im with you 101% I disassociated myself two years ago my wife still attends the meeting with my kids in fact there with my mother in law at her convention taking in more baloney. All my in laws that are jehovah's cronies don't speak to me, they act like its my fault, that I BROKE FAMILY ties those are your watchtower rules I did not make them up.Get this, when I finally spoke to my in laws that were not jehovah witnesses they did not know they were not speaking to me. my wife and her mother dearest were covering it up. wow if the society said the sky was green and tan the witnesses would respond AMEN ain't that the truth.

THE REAL TRUTH STANDS THE TEST OF TIME IT, WILL NOT CHANGE, IF IT DOES ITS A LIE.The sun will rise, The sun will set,AN EXAMPLE of The real TRUTH nobody can change.

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How Many States / Countrys Are Represented Here?

by Big Jim in

jw
friends

i am from houston texas myself.

BERNARD

I FROM NEW YORK NOW LIVE IN NEW JERSY USA

THE REAL TRUTH STANDS THE TEST OF TIME IT, WILL NOT CHANGE, IF IT DOES ITS A LIE.The sun will rise, The sun will set,AN EXAMPLE of The real TRUTH nobody can change.

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ministrial servant on platform

by BERNARD in

jw
friends

i served as a ministrial servant in the borg.

i received a #1 talk.

assignment from the jw proclamers of god's kingdom.

BERNARD

we gave #1 talk assignments from the proclaimers book,The changes about the generation and new light has already past this talk is given in 1998

THE REAL TRUTH STANDS THE TEST OF TIME IT, WILL NOT CHANGE, IF IT DOES ITS A LIE.The sun will rise, The sun will set,AN EXAMPLE of The real TRUTH nobody can change.

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ministrial servant on platform

by BERNARD in

jw
friends

i served as a ministrial servant in the borg.

i received a #1 talk.

assignment from the jw proclamers of god's kingdom.

BERNARD

I served as a ministrial servant in the borg. I received a #1 talk
assignment from the jw proclamers of god's kingdom. When I went over the material it was about the dates the borg spoke about such as 1975 and other changes such as the generation scripture. I spoke to my wife about it and said, "this information I have to give is double talk."she said "no its not just new light". My mother was raised jw and she told me about there 1975 baloney which was denied by the witnesses when I started studying. my mother left the borg as soon as she left home and was mad at me at first, when I started studying because it kept me out of trouble but cried when she seen my blood card anyway, now ten or 11 years later I have to sugar coat this 1975
and other doctrinal changes that were once the truth.I admit when they made that change concerning the generation at the convention in 94 I was pissed off and felt the same feeling throughout the convetion at the point it was discussed. Now it was 1998 and I had
to give this talk to string the brothers along further into believing were still living in the end. The night came to give that talk, how did I give it? I found the 1975 article that hype the brothers up and the article expaining that 1975 mishap after the 1975 past from the borg watchtower words twisted and full of it. I can see the looks on the brother faces as I gave the talk I was not convincing myself, and I was not going to say anythingin my own words concerning the information.I read the information straight from the borg wacthtower mouthpiece. I knew the audience knew I did not beleive what I was reading from the watchtower myself.I never sugar coated the info just found information on how the watchtower justified themselves and there predictions and how us as Jehovah people should feel.We had bethel elders one of them wanted to talk to me about the talk when the meeting was over, he never did. That was my last talk I gave and I read it straight from the wt 76 7/15 I just read the watchtower explaination of there interpretations of the end and the new understanding made concerning them. The reaction of the audience from the look on there faces was that I was not convince of the talk and gave it with no conviction.I remember back in the 1994 convention when they gave the talk on the Generation change there was an uncomfortable feeling throughout yankee stadium I'll never forget it was eerie. There is an article from the society ENTITLED why are you looking forward to 1975? Yes, the society made that statement and written an article to mislead the brothers to look forward to 1975 which every jw denied but read the article.There is an article ENTITLED would you spread a rumor? This article was written because of the hidden images in the art work that were being notice.you read the article the society knows its true in your denying face The subliminal images are in the articles, there occultic symbols. The very reason why its not notice by an average Jehovah witness being that they don't know what occultic symbols look like since the watchtower discourages spiritism, but yet they the false prophet practice it in your face by means of the watchtower and awake magazines as well as there other publications, so the staff who never give there names as artists of the watchtower incorporates them in the innocent beautiful paradise art work to hide there true intentions of who there really serving. I called a friend on the phone and asked him to get his revelation book and look at a certain picture, he was shocked, I pointed out another picture to a bethelite , He admitted it then turns around at another meeting with him and another brother to deny it. The other brother did not want to look. Its your books, you put it in people houses for crying out loud you call the truth. People its there articles they write and draw up the art work nvere give there names because there to cowardly to give there names, the finger is at them take your brain out your ass and use it stop being in denial is over it. IN THE COURT OF LAW YOUR GUILTY OF ALL OF THE ABOVE, THE PROOF IS IN YOUR OWN HANDS, IN YOUR HOUSE,SO STOP PUTTING IT IN OTHER people houses AS JEHOVAH WITNESSES you claim to be the truth when actully it's a lie and we all know were the lie orignates.

P.S ARE YOU LIVING FOREVER YET? THEN DON'T CALL ME A LIAR UNTIL YOU DO. THEY SAY, BLIND FAITH JUSTIFY ANYTHING WITH NO PROOF. i was once blind now i can see through you and your watchtower and the proof is in your hands,in your house, is HIDDEN your face and YOUR too blind to see it THE OCCULT IS POWERFUL.

THE REAL TRUTH STANDS THE TEST OF TIME IT, WILL NOT CHANGE, IF IT DOES ITS A LIE.The sun will rise, The sun will set,AN EXAMPLE of The real TRUTH nobody can change.

The letter of my mind into what???????????????

by BERNARD in

i was sixteen years old when i started studying with jehovah witness.

this is the first letter i wrote my study conductor 10/16/86.

psalms 101:5-7. proverbs 17:17. proverbs 18:24. i thank you again for the train fare to the circuit assembly.i.

BERNARD

I was sixteen years old when I started studying with Jehovah witness
This is the first letter I wrote my study conductor 10/16/86

psalms 101:5-7
proverbs 17:17
proverbs 18:24

I thank you again for the train fare to the circuit assembly.I
don't usually take money from people unless it was an emergency. I told my dad I was having bible study with Jehovah's witnesses, He had already knew,my mother told him awhile back. My dad is a baptist but don't go to church. Three years ago I remember him introducing me to a father, until now I found out "do not call anyone your father on earth mt.23:9. I told him the next time we meet I'm gonna tell him what I learned from the bible and what I'm looking forward to do in the future If not sooner. He said "whatever I do, that makes me happy
makes him happy to".
I never been so open to a person, I only knew for a short time in my life except "THE JW", because your the only one I truston this
earth that isn't family. I hope I can be there when you need favors or something. None of my CLOSE family is in the truth, but like "JW" said, action speaks louder then words. I used to be depressed "jw", but you encourage me and I thank you for that. My family might never be at my side at congregations, future field service and finally baptism and the end of these system of things. I know "jw" will be and I hope I will be at your side in paradise and not destroyed.

This was the first of the three letters written before my baptism TO MY STUDY CONDUCTOR WHICH WAS the beginning of My indoctrination as a JEHOVAH WITNESS. ANY COMMENTS p.s I HAVE ALL COPIES OF MY WRITINGS AS A JEHOVAH WITNESS for 11 years PRACTICING. I HONESTLY KNEW AS I LOOK BACK HOW I WAS A VICTIM OF MIND CONTROL. I learned the real truth does not change if it does, its a lie. In the watchtower organization before you can turn your head there is NEW TRUTH, NEW UNDERSTANDING, NEW LIGHT,NEW CHANGES.

THE NEW FACT IN MY MIND IS THAT THE WATCHTOWER KNEW IT WAS ALREADY A LIE BEFORE it was SPOKEN.Then WRote these promises they say are from Jehovah.TIME HAS ALREADY TOLD ON THE WATCHTOWER time tells all tales on a THE FALSE PROPHET YOU ALREADY WERE. you humbly think on that note, if your brain is not already fried like southern chicken on watchtower self interpretating and misconception baloney ,I admit I fell for the watchtower for 11 years of my life with no regrets because im now fully aware of the BS in the world today because of the watchtower, thank you. comments please

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HELLO? HELLO? "ALL" SIGN IN???????

by waiting in

simon did away with the sex forum - so i must take the tradional route and post under "make new friends.

" how mundane!.

fyi ---- for all of us, please take the time to write a sentence or two about yourselves, and encourage new ones to do the same.

BERNARD

hello everybody i'll be posting my jw poems so we can all remember how brainwashed we all were. he he, your friend bernard free your mind your ass will follow

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FAITHFUL TODAY, WHAT ABOUT TOMMORROW? POEM #2

by BERNARD in

faithful today, what about tommorrow ?.

faithful today, but what about tommorrow ?.

my relationship with jehovah can suddenly change.. i remember an associate, who had a brother and on the same day,.

BERNARD

Faithful Today, What about Tommorrow ?

Faithful Today, but what about tommorrow ?
my relationship with Jehovah can suddenly change.
I remember an associate, who had a brother and on the same day,
we got baptize together.
In the back of our minds we both had the prospect of living forever.
YES, WE WERE FAITHFUL THAT DAY, dedicating our lives to our sovereign
LORD JEHOVAH "but" as time past, he didn't last and even yes I myself thought I WASN'T GOING TO LAST.
FAITHFUL TODAY, BUT WHAT ABOUT TOMMORROW?

This is poem #2 I have many more I'll be posting I wrote all of them while I was a Jehovah Witness for 11 years and these poems represent how I felt and experiences I was going through as a jw. When I look back at what I've written, I don't take for granted how powerful our minds can be with what we Know and what we don't know. Today I know I don't have to be faithful to no religious organization,Based on there interpretations of the bible.

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why couldn't I poem#1

by BERNARD in

i have a hope, but it's still hard to cope.sitting in my room alone, depressed about,where do i go from here?

from my eyes there are fallen tears.. my mind is now idle.

i'm coming to the point that i don't care.

BERNARD

I have a hope, but it's still hard to cope.Sitting in my room alone, depressed about,where do I go from here? From my eyes there are fallen tears.

My mind is now Idle. I'm coming to the point that I don't care. I try
to meditate on all the bible promises I may Know, but my mind and my heart won't adjust back to the hope I know.

I have lost the love for Jehovah I had at first. I feel hurt, I feel life is something I didn't ask for or deserve. In my imperfect state, I try to do the right thing, But im tired now, I want to go the wrong way. Im missing meetings every week. The hope I first had, is now something of the past. Today I'm totally inactive, the world looks so good, it seems so attractive, being in the truth compared to being in the world is so dull. The end is never coming, if it is, I have enough time to enjoy the world and make it back in time. If I don't it's because I don't care, If I live or die.

I been in the world separated and alienated from Jehovah for a long time. Then I finally realize satan had blinded me from the light of life, then jehovah's day came like a theft in the night.

I had tears in my eyes
I was about to die
Why couldn't I Keep the faith and do what is right ?
WHY COULDN'T I ?

my name is Bernard Lovell Jr. I was a Faithful Jehovah witness for 11 years of my life. I auxilary pioneer off and on and served as a ministrial servant. I did the accounts and gave instruction talks until ONE DAY I question my material that was the begining of my awakening. As you can tell by my poem I was and did considered myself Brainwashed when I wrote it and will be posting other poems I've written while a jw to prove the mind control. I disassociated myself two years ago. Im happy and at peace with myself. My wife and two kids still go to the meetings With the false belief of the the doctrine I once had in my mind WHY COULD'T I. FEAR AND GUILT DOES NOT CONTROL MY ACTIONS ANYMORE NOR SHOULD YOU EVER LET IT CONTROL YOURS.WHO, WHAT, WHEN, WHERE AND WHY ? IS YOUR KEYS TO MENTAL FREEDOM GET THE FULL GRIP ON WHAT THE TRUTH REALLY IS FOR YOURSELF BY YOURSELF THROUGH STUDY OF EVERY BOOK PRINTED TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS IN YOUR LIFE. IGNORANCE IS YOUR GREATEST ENEMY AND TRUE KNOWLEDGE FOR SELF IS YOUR GREATEST POWER.
don't be a victim of mind control get the facts for yourself and keep your soul on earth alive until you die. love bernard BEEN THERE DONE THAT