Posts by betweenworlds

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Sick of "prophecies"

by lookingnow22 in

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i'm going to ramble (rant) again!.

i am so sick and tired of hearing about this prophecy in the bible, and that prophecy in the bible.

i'm sick of hearing they were fulfilled by this person, that organization, some event.

Why would the almighty God of the universe, who gave us the abilty to converse clearly with one another, in a forthright, straight manner <This ability which even animals and insects have> Resort to using convoluted opended prophesies that are open to innumerable interpretations. We would never use this method to communicate with OUR children (And we are supposedly made in Gods image) When we want our children to do something, or feel that they are in danger, we TELL THEM in a not so hard to figure out way! If you believe the bible, there are many instances where God spoke directly, either himself or through angels to mankind. Why would he not use this method if our lives were depending on the outcome??? To use an analogy, imagine a father at one end of very dangerous maze filled with land mines, while his son is at the other end. The father tells his son.... son, you can get to the other side safely if you can correctly interpret these dreams I had the other night (While all the while the father has the exact directions on how to get his son to the other side safely and could give them to his son right away)Why would he do this? Where is the logic? I don't get it......
And I don't buy the argument that only the *worthy* who can figure it all out 'cause they are divinely blessed are going to survive.
The God I believe in is a hell of a lot kinder and makes more sense! And I'm proud to say that I DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS!!!!!!!

Just my 2

BW

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Anyone from Central NY?

by betweenworlds in

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i don't live there now, but i was just wondering if there are any folks who post here who might be from my old stomping grounds when i was a dub.

hoping to connect up with others who i used to know who now realize that the truth isn't the truth.. bw.

ps: i was from the rome/utica area

betweenworlds

Thanks LDH, will do

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Anyone from Central NY?

by betweenworlds in

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i don't live there now, but i was just wondering if there are any folks who post here who might be from my old stomping grounds when i was a dub.

hoping to connect up with others who i used to know who now realize that the truth isn't the truth.. bw.

ps: i was from the rome/utica area

betweenworlds

Rome/Utica is close to Syracuse area. Just it's about a 5 or 6 hour drive to NYC from there.

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A funny thing happened at the book store

by OrangeBlossom in

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i recently ordered another copy of "in search of christian freedom" as i got rid of my first one (long story) and since it had been a couple of years since i read it, i decided to get another one.. since i live in a fairly small town, i decided to give a fake name, in case someone worked at the book store that might be a jw.

it was saturday morning (a time when all good little jw's should be in field service) so i felt it safe to go pick up my book.

i walk into the store and headed for the counter but was stopped in my tracks by an elder and his family.

betweenworlds

LOL orange! that was a close one. Sounds like your luck is about as good as mine. Doesn't it make you mad though, having to resort to such feelings? Grrrrr. I'm almost to the point of saying to hell with it, I don't care anymore who finds out....Makes you feel almost like a criminal the way you have to keep things hidden. Very frustrating.

BW

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Anyone from Central NY?

by betweenworlds in

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friends

i don't live there now, but i was just wondering if there are any folks who post here who might be from my old stomping grounds when i was a dub.

hoping to connect up with others who i used to know who now realize that the truth isn't the truth.. bw.

ps: i was from the rome/utica area

betweenworlds

I don't live there now, but I was just wondering if there are any folks who post here who might be from my old stomping grounds when I was a Dub. Hoping to connect up with others who I used to know who now realize that the truth isn't the truth.

BW

PS: I was from the Rome/Utica area

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I'm So Ashamed.

by Englishman in

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i am ashamed to admit this, but last week it suddenly became apparent to me that i have been unconsciously following a most despicable witness trait.. i have been disfellowshipping people!.

let me explain.

in about 5 weeks time i shall be holding my birthday barbecue - apostates welcome!

betweenworlds

Very well done eman!!!!! Proud of ya, and you have inspired a lot of us I think

BW

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When things started to "fall off"

by comment in

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i was thinking about this in several areas today.. 1) district conventions and house-to-house work.

if you were a witness for a long time, you probably remember a time when going to the conventions seemed perfectly "normal" to you: it was absolutely "the thing" to sit in a sports arena all day listening to bible talks and counsel from men in suits.. but at some point, did you ever start to feel like you were participating in a cultural relic, so to speak?.

as in, "here it is, the 1990's, and the society is still using fundamentally the same old format they've been using all century long.

betweenworlds

I have! I was speaking to my husband about this the other day. I was wondering why the WTBTS would not use every method available to proclaim the good news. In Jesus days they went door to door because that was the best and really the ONLY method. However today with TV, internet etc. etc. there are many other more expedient, efficient ways to do it. Why does the WTBTS not utilize these?? Why don't they spread the good news on billboards, TV specials, interactive internet sites, yada yada yada. I don't get it, I really don't. But then God works in mysterious ways doesn't he? <YEAH RIGHT!>
(Or perhaps those methods aren't the best way to hawk worthless literature?) Any insights in the WTBTS Amish-like thinking?

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May 15, 2001 Watchtower

by betweenworlds in

here is some sage advice from the wtbts!

on page 23 of the may 15th, 2001 watchtower, in an article entitled 'building a spiritually strong family' paragraph 9 says the following.. there are dozens of magazines, hundreds of books, and thousands of internet websites offering advice on how to rear children.

very often "the information conflicts" says a newsweek special issue on children.

betweenworlds

Hey Ozzie Thanks for the welcome

I know! I find it so amazing now when reading the magazines how many cases there are of the pot calling the kettle black! A few years ago I wouldn't have even noticed, but now they pop off the page, glaring in their hypocrisy. Amazing what one can see with out a blindfold over ones eyes

Glad to be free to see....

BW

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May 15, 2001 Watchtower

by betweenworlds in

here is some sage advice from the wtbts!

on page 23 of the may 15th, 2001 watchtower, in an article entitled 'building a spiritually strong family' paragraph 9 says the following.. there are dozens of magazines, hundreds of books, and thousands of internet websites offering advice on how to rear children.

very often "the information conflicts" says a newsweek special issue on children.

betweenworlds

Here is some sage advice from the WTBTS! On page 23 of the May 15th, 2001 Watchtower, in an article entitled 'Building a spiritually strong family' Paragraph 9 says the following.

There are dozens of magazines, hundreds of books, and thousands of internet websites offering advice on how to rear children. Very often "the information conflicts" says a Newsweek special issue on children. "Even more disconcerting is when information you think you can trust turns out to be just plain wrong" How thankful we are that Jehovah has provided abundantly for the instruction and spiritual development of families! Do you take full advantage of all the provisions made by the faithful and discreet slave class?-Matthew 24:45-47

LOL! "Even more disconcerting is when information you think you can trust turns out to be just plain wrong" Disconcerting indeed dear Governing body!

BW

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Ever seen ARNE KOCH'S website?

by sf in

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it's pretty interesting:.

< http://babel.altavista.com/urltrurl?lp=de_en&url=http%3a%2f%2fjzinfo.arnekoch.de.

this is the main page i got the koch site from: .

betweenworlds

Those both just go to the babel fish main page