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  I need someone to explain...

  by desib77 in

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  this forum seems to have changed quite a bit and i'm kind of confused about the different people that respond to posts.

  i need someone to explain what a jw apologist is to me.

  is that someone who is not or has never been a jw but doesn't think there is anything wrong with what they do / teach?.

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  Lucy! You has some 'splaining to do!
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  Can we blame our ancestors for our own shortcomings?

  by undercover in

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  in a recent thread about an nfl player being allowed to return to play after being convicted and serving time for a felony, it was suggested that maybe his ancestory played a part in his attitudes and actions.. those of you were playing along at home know the deal.... is it fair to lay blame on one's ancestors in how one acts in today's society?.

  i think not.... my ancestor's came here from scotland, when their lands were taken from them back home.

  they came here with nothing and had to start over in a land with next to nothing, eeking out an existance in the mountains of tn and nc, always struggling.

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  I think everybody is to blame:

  • The African Sellers, for being greedy bastards. They are now teaching classes to Wall Street bankers.

  • The Lazy European fucks who couldn't get their cotton themselves because their corsets were to tight.

  • The Slaves, for buying the whole '2-Hour Tour' schtick.
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  Can we blame our ancestors for our own shortcomings?

  by undercover in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in a recent thread about an nfl player being allowed to return to play after being convicted and serving time for a felony, it was suggested that maybe his ancestory played a part in his attitudes and actions.. those of you were playing along at home know the deal.... is it fair to lay blame on one's ancestors in how one acts in today's society?.

  i think not.... my ancestor's came here from scotland, when their lands were taken from them back home.

  they came here with nothing and had to start over in a land with next to nothing, eeking out an existance in the mountains of tn and nc, always struggling.

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  I had refrianed form commenting on this issue on another topic. But I was discussing it with Beks and here it is...

  I'm from Puerto Rico. Back home I'm considered 'white', but not here in the states. Back home we don't have race issues like we do here. I can call my black friend whatever I want, and talk to any 'black' person (by PR's standards) without being afraid of them being offended or getting violent by any little thing.
  
  I want to clarify, I'm not a 'racists' but like everyone else, I have my prejudices. One of the things I loved the most about moving to the States was meeting all sorts of different people. I have met a few black people and even though it's all good, I feel very apprehensive around them, like I have to walk on eggshells, because normally I don't hold back on anything.
  
  I understand that slavery was a horrible thing, my ancestors were both slaves and owners of slaves, how's that for conflicted.
  
  But I feel that sometimes black people themselves are responsible for the stereotypes or prejudices that they accuse others of. Basically they have built barriers around them. I call my neighbor 'cracker' or 'honkey' goofing around, you think I could do that with a black person? I doubt it. There's a lot of things that bug me, like the phrase 'African-American', I mean, you were born in America, you pay taxes in America. You don't comprise any part of the African continent at this point in history, you don't pay African taxes, and you don't get to pay half of your taxes here. How do you want America to see you if you only see yourself as half an American. Plus, they forget 2 things, 1) Africans in general hate black americans. 2) who do you think sold africans to the Europeans as slaves? Yeah, black africans.
  
  I do believe that racism is alive and kicking in this country, there's no doubt in my mind and I don't like it. But I think black people could help themselves if they tried to be more open instead of bulding walls around them. They have come a long way, we even have a black president (or half anyway), walking around with the attitude of 'the world owes us something', belittle those achievements, IMO.
  
  That's the gist of it.

  Oh yeah, and rap 'music' sucks ass!
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  Whistleblower Speaks Out On What Really Happens in US Healthcare

  by sammielee24 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for those of you in other countries - how many times have you seen thousands of your own countrymen lying outside in a field waiting for health care?

  sammieswife.. whistleblower tells of america's hidden nightmare for its sick poorwhen an insurance firm boss saw a field hospital for the poor in virginia, he knew he had to speak out.

  here, he tells paul harris of his fears for obama's bid to bring about radical change.

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  Exactly.

  being conservative and being republican are becoming 2 different things. IMO.
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  Whistleblower Speaks Out On What Really Happens in US Healthcare

  by sammielee24 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for those of you in other countries - how many times have you seen thousands of your own countrymen lying outside in a field waiting for health care?

  sammieswife.. whistleblower tells of america's hidden nightmare for its sick poorwhen an insurance firm boss saw a field hospital for the poor in virginia, he knew he had to speak out.

  here, he tells paul harris of his fears for obama's bid to bring about radical change.

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  This country is going to go to hell if right wing nutbags don't blink and start thinking for themselves. What the hell is it? Something in the water? Fear of responsibility?? Too much TV?

  Aside from having a lot of nutbags, the republican party has been taken over by the religious right... and in my experience, people that have a hard-on for the end of the world don't really give a shit about what happens to everyone else...
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  Is the artwork on the new creation DVD astrological?

  by JerkhovahsWitless in

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  anyone else after opening the dvd case for the wonders of creation reveal god's glory (hole), immediately think of the zodiac when looking at the disc?.

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  Who is the Green Man?

  by cameo-d in

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  scotland, glasgow.

  post 4279 of 4282. since 10/5/2006.

  ....the green man ....is he also osiris?.

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  The Celtic/Druid Green Man

  Etymological research by the University of Wales into the meaning of the names of Celtic gods and goddesses shows that one Celtic deity, Viridios, has a name meaning "Green Man" in both the Celtic languages and Latin.

  

  The Green Man is an ancient symbol of nature. A legendary pagan deity who roams the woodlands of the British Isles and Europe. He usually is depicted as a horned man peering out of a mask of foliage, usually the sacred oak. He is known by other names such as "Green Jack, "Jack-in-the-Green" and "Green George." He represents spirits of trees, plants and foliage. It is believed he has rain making powers to foster livestock with lush meadows. He was frequently depicted in medieval art, including church decorations.

  Green George, as he is usually called in spring Pagan rites, is represented by a young man dressed head to foot in greenery, who leads the festival procession. In various festivals, Green George, or an effigy of him, is dunked in a river or pond to ensure that there will be enough rain to make the meadows and pastures green. It is also believed by some the Green Man shares an affinity with the forest-dwelling fairies since green is the fairy color. In some locals of the British Isles the fairies are called "Greenies" and "Greencoaties." In the myth of "The Fairy Children," there appears two fairy children, a brother and a sister, who have green skin and claim to be of a race with green ski.

  Parallels have been drawn between the Green Man and various deities. Many see the Green Man as being connected to many gods such as Osiris, Odin and even the Christian Jesus, as well as later folkloric and literary characters such as the Green Knight, John Barleycorn, the Holly King and Tammuz of the Mesopotamians who is thought by some to symbolize the triumph of Green Life over Winter and Death. [ 7 ]

  In Thomas Nashe's masque Summer's Last Will and Testament (1592, printed 1600), the character commenting upon the action remarks, after the exit of "Satyrs and wood-Nymphs", "The rest of the green men have reasonable voices…". Mythical figures such as Woden , Cernunnos, Sylvanus , Derg Corra , Green George , Jack in the green, John Barleycorn, Robin Goodfellow , Puck, and the Green Knight all partake of the Green Man's nature; it has also been suggested that the story of Robin Hood was born of the Green Man mythology. A more modern embodiment is found in Peter Pan, who enters the civilized world from a nether land, clothed in green leaves. Even Father Christmas, who was often shown wreathed in ivy in early depictions, has been suggested as a similar woodland spirit [ 8 ] .

  The Green Knight of Sir Gawain and the Green Knight serves as both monster and mentor to Sir Gawain, belonging to a pre-Christian world which seems antagonistic to, but is in the end harmonious with, the Christian one.

  In the Germanic nations such as Germany, Iceland and England, depictions of the Green Man could have been inspired by deities such as Freyr or Woden , as both have many attributes of the later Green Men from throughout Europe.
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  Woman Killed Infant/Cannibalism (graphic post)

  by Yizuman in

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  2. current

  san antonio -- a woman charged with murdering her 312-week-old son used a knife and two swords to dismember the child and ate parts of his body, including his brain, before stabbing herself in the torso and slicing her own throat, police said monday.. .

  otty sanchez, 33, is charged with capital murder in the death of her infant son, scott wesley buchholtz-sanchez.

  she was recovering from her wounds at a hospital, and was being held on $1 million bail.. .

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  Sick. If true this person should be executed. I volunteer to do the honors when the time comes.

  It's true... and in my town no less. I hope that bitch fries.
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  Birthday Celebrations & other shenanigans

  by homeschool in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  well, here's my latest "thing"...i plan on speaking with my siblings & their mates in the near future.

  i have told them that i have questions regarding some doctrines, mainly stuff like birthdays, mother's day, father's day, etc.

  my hubby has some questions for them regarding their wacky blood doctrine (but i wont cover that in this thread).

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  Not that I give a crap about what the Bible says, but for the sake of debating with a JW...

  ROMANS 14:5-8

  5 One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 He who regards one day as special, does so to the Lord. He who eats meat, eats to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who abstains, does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God. 7 For none of us lives to himself alone and none of us dies to himself alone. 8 If we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord.
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  JW Suicide Bombers !

  by wobble in

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  my question is this :.

  are jw's who sacrifice their lives because of the blood doctrine (thoroughly discredited) of the watchtower org.

  of the same mentality as suicide bombers ?.

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  Yes, it is the same mentality.

  What most of the world see as abherrant behavior, to them is heroic.