That's about what I have come to believe. I have big hopes. But hey, we are all getting older. I'd like it to happen while I am still young.(young at heart anyway)
biblexaminer
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What happens when a dub faces the truth...
by biblexaminer ini wanted to pass along this personal experience.. the other day, my wife called me on the phone while i was at work.
keep in mind that she's unfortunately a blind jwfollowwhatevertheysay type.
she was all worked up.
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What happens when a dub faces the truth...
by biblexaminer ini wanted to pass along this personal experience.. the other day, my wife called me on the phone while i was at work.
keep in mind that she's unfortunately a blind jwfollowwhatevertheysay type.
she was all worked up.
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biblexaminer
It's unfortunate. But here we are with it.
Another thing,.. I managed to tell my wife a few things here and there. One day, she says to me "I don't want to wake up one day and find out that we were in a cult..." and went on to lament that she would not want to find out too late that her child could have had a birthday party.
I thought the time was right, that her mind was beginning to open. I gave a little more info about a few things. But gently. Cause she can turn you know.
But alas, the Watchtower mind control kicked in again. I think I have to get her in mid cycle. Seems the hormones help the process.
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What happens when a dub faces the truth...
by biblexaminer ini wanted to pass along this personal experience.. the other day, my wife called me on the phone while i was at work.
keep in mind that she's unfortunately a blind jwfollowwhatevertheysay type.
she was all worked up.
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biblexaminer
I wanted to pass along this personal experience.
The other day, my wife called me on the phone while I was at work. Keep in mind that she's unfortunately a blind JWfollowwhatevertheysay type. She was all worked up. She could hardly talk, and finally managed to get it out of her mouth, what was on her mind.
Apparently, a fellow sister whom she hardly knows, called her on the phone and began this little presentation for selling some product. Rather unfortunately for my wife, she sounded kind of cold and disconnected. It was one of those form presentations where you just change the name etc.. "Hello MR/MRS [fill in the blank].. I am [fill in the blank], from.." You get the picture.
In any case, as my wife tells me, she "thought this 'sister' was about to tell me some apostate news". My wife said her heart was pounding in her chest, she was gasping for air, and shaking like a leaf. She had to call me right away...
Well, as it turns out, this 'sis' was selling tupperware or something, and my wife misread the conversation. The point is, look at what happened. What does it tell you about what it's like to be a dub, and be face to face with "it".
And in this case, "it" wasn't even "it"... if you know what I mean. Just the prospect of facing some truth was incomprehensible for her. Her nerves were shot. Living the Watchtower way has put her on the pharmacy steps waiting for her next batch of mommy's little helpers.
This taken into consideration, what is going to happen when one day, she and so many others have to face the music? They delude themselves, believeing that they all are just gonna slide on in to the "new world"... won't have to see any of that "ugly truth". Just as easy as pie.
I remember when the first CCI mailer went out. It hit hard here and there was alot of tears. NO rebuttals concerning it's content. Just tears and wailing.
It reminds me of the Pharasees. They could say nothing to refute the "truth" (real stuff) that out Lord brought upon them. All they could do is rip their clothes.
I hope I can handle her when the shit hits the fan.
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Response from WT Dutch Branch Office
by avengers inbelow is the english translation of the answer the wt gave me.
the original answer is in dutch.
you can read it here.
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biblexaminer
They are just re-issueing the same lies that Crooklyn sent them. Crookly pulls the strings, and they hop hop hop.
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How to Get the US Press to Notice?
by mikepence inany thoughts on how to get the us press to cover the great un library card scandal?.
does anyone have a very simple un fiasco for dummies site that we could refer press members to?.
any thoughts on this?
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biblexaminer
Are any of you folks really JWs?
I AM.
Letter to the editor? Sure, I'll just offer myself up on the altar for sacrifice.
What, do you not think that others have considered this? DUH!!
As far as people being interested, as a dub, I can tell you that they are. For instance, when a small article was printed on the 7th page of our locla newspaper, concerning dubs, we dubs felt the heat. At work, it was the talk of the plant. I had to sneak around till it blew over.
Guys were raging, SWEARING their heads off. It was all the talk in the shop.
People are tired of being looked down upon by dubs, who self-righteously march through their neighborhoods every week, reminding all by their (our) prescence in their hood, of everybody else's inferiority.
When a chance for a 'get-even' comes, they nab it.
Many times, when I was in close proximity to people who didn't know I was a dub, people talk about us.
You think we go un-noticed? You are not dubs.
As far as your 'letter to the editor' goes, you won't do a damn thing! You all sit on your ass and wait for somebody else to do it. You sit there and complain, but you are unwilling to do fart!
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A WTS lie for UN "association"
by hawkaw infull deposit: publications and masthead documents in english.
partial deposit: publications in english.
partial deposit: publications in english.
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biblexaminer
Do you think people who control empires are that stupid?
I don't know, let's ask the Taliban. Or Hitler.
The GB are lying their asses off on this thing, and we have all the proof.
Now, I will ask YOU a question.
Do you think the rest of us "are that stupid"?
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How to Get the US Press to Notice?
by mikepence inany thoughts on how to get the us press to cover the great un library card scandal?.
does anyone have a very simple un fiasco for dummies site that we could refer press members to?.
any thoughts on this?
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biblexaminer
How about participating in the act of embarassing the press for their inaction?
This is the last week to participate, or sit on your ass and complain that everybody else ain't doing something.
See "THIS POST FOR REAL SOLDIERS" and put your money where your mouth is.
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burn your Ray Franz books
by edward gentry inwent over to a disassociated witnesses house the other night,.
former org hatchet man,now as violently opposed to the org as he was, once, enslaved by them.. hes talkin "raymond franz says this...franz says that" all night.. it made me sick to my guts.. franz was pure borg heirachy, born and bred to power.. now hes opposed (if he aint dead by now)and these ex borg mind slaves are still listening to the guy like hes a repository of truth.. im not attacking ray franz,hes probably a nice guy,im just floating an idea.
what is a free mind?.
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biblexaminer
I read alot of the posts here. It's obvios to me that edward gentry is jealous of Ray Franz.
Sorry, it's that Foydian in me. Gotta tellitlikeitis.
If gentry would sit down and start writing today, then one day, maybe, somebody would love him too!
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THIS POST FOR SERIOUS SOLDIERS
by biblexaminer inthis thread is for the serious soldier.
those who get involved here must mean business.. the link provided at bottom is to a three page letter, meant for all clergy everywhere.
it is the community conscious international newsletter informing all clerical persons of the latest watchtower scandal.
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biblexaminer
OK. I emailed you if you need me.
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THIS POST FOR SERIOUS SOLDIERS
by biblexaminer inthis thread is for the serious soldier.
those who get involved here must mean business.. the link provided at bottom is to a three page letter, meant for all clergy everywhere.
it is the community conscious international newsletter informing all clerical persons of the latest watchtower scandal.
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biblexaminer
I understand what you have written.
I have taken into account that many clergy today do not understand the WTS message, and hence feel empathy toward the WTS and JWs. I wrote this in this way, in an effort to make this look general. I don't want it to take off, looking like a hack at the WTS.
At the same time, although I may have been influenced by the WTS writing committee, (chuckle) you need to take into account that they are not the worst writers in the world. In fact, that's the problem.
To Sam BeliPeople actually read their rags and get hooked.
In the end, after 40 years pounding doors, I know a little, anyway, about how people react. My writing style resulted in many JWs reading right till the third page (in my general mailout), and was discussed at the Kingdom halls. It brought shock and outrage.
Perfect.
Are you mailing anything?