I can understand when you say you have to find your own way. I respect that. But, I, like the others here know that you are setting yourself up for a lot of hurt and disappointment. In all honesty, do you really think your relatives will even hear you out? They will be on to you in a blink of an eye as what you are saying to them does not have "the ring of truth". Shunning a human being - even a dog - takes its toll psychologically. It is like a mental solitary confinement. Being an elder, were you on the judicial committee? If so, maybe you could visit those that you had a part in DF. Those perhaps that had extenuating circumstances; those that you knew in your heart did not deserve such harsh punishment for the "crime". I'm sure you know in your heart and mind who some of these individuals are. I think your time would be better spent helping those. As for your relatives, they are taught as you well know that you are worse than the worst in the world. Don't continue to beat yourself up; let it go!! Also, when you are reinstated there are those that will never talk to you again. You are forever "bad" to them. I guess it makes them feel superior? I hope you find your place in a SPIRITUAL RELATIONSHIP with Jehovah. " Let God be found true though every man a liar". With all sincerity, Juni