Brooooootherrrrr Aaaaanderson.... We're here on a shepherding call. We here you've been contacted by a very dangerous apostate called "Morpheus." Do not listen to his apostate reasoning, Brother Anderson.
MungoBaobab
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Why, oh why, didn't I take the blue pill....
by mkr32208 in.
do any of you have the matrix wish i could just forget all this attitude sometimes?
me and the wife were fightitng again and she asked why i can't just go back and pretend or just forget all this... she said as an athnostic you either don't belive in god or don't believe that god cares so why can't you just go and fake it... i was dumbfounded i ask her why can't you just get the f*ck out and stop faking it... she stormed out and i sat down here..... so i ask ya, if you could forget all the negatives about the wbts (i know thats a lot) and just go back like nothing had ever happened would you?
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Were You One of Those That Ran To The Elders About Everything???
by minimus indid you always call the elders or talk to them about things?
did you have a favorite elder that you confided to about everything?
if someone was acting inappropriately, did you feel obliged to "report" them to the elders?
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MungoBaobab
How much private and confidential information do you think gets leaked to overbearing, busy-body elderettes? Reminds me of that old Witness joke... Don't get your hopes up:
A publisher, mimisterial servant, and elder are out in service when they find a genie in a bottle. They have three wishes to split between them.
"I wish I had more knowledge about the God's Organization, to help run it," says the publisher. POOF! He becomes a ministerial servant.
"I wish I had more knowledge about the Bible, to help teach it," wished the ministerial servant. POOF! He's becomes an elder.
"I wish I knew everything that was going on in the congregation, to help influence it," wishes the elder. POOF! He becomes a sister!
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some statistics i got in the mail today.
by candidlynuts ini'm on a program called " tenncare" which is basically medicaid.. they send out a newsletter every month or so and i got one in today.
it had stats from last year which included child abuse.. .
quoting " sadly, last year more than 1,500 children in tennesee were victims of reported physical abuse.
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MungoBaobab
One thing to be wary of is the definition of "sexual abuse." Is exposure to pornography sexual abuse? Then one must define "pornography" also. Is taking a picture of your baby in the bathtub child pornography? Some might say yes, then that can skew numbers.
That being said, there are many, many sickos out there. Too many.
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Do you and your significant other share religious beliefs?
by MelbaToast insometimes, i think my husband is much more church oriented than i am.
i still get upset when i attend church, but lately he has been putting the push on me for us to go back to his church where he grew up in.
he would like to start taking our daughter so she has a somewhat structured religious belief.
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MungoBaobab
Stinky where do you find all these hot mamas for your avatars? I liked Alicia Keyes, now who is this?
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Should I teach my kids about Santa Claus? (Lie vs. Harmless Fantasy)
by AlmostAtheist inmy wife and i got on a discussion about something i never would've guessed we'd need to.
she wants to teach our new baby about santa claus, easter bunny, & tooth fairy, but i don't.
of course, as witnesses we never would have taught that, and i have to acknowledge that i may only be reasoning using that old set of values.. i don't want to look into my kid's eyes and tell her something that i know for a fact isn't true.
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MungoBaobab
Melba, I said parenting CAN be a condescending excercise, not that is "is such" a condescending excercise. And no, I have not done it, at least not to my knowledge! A parent must "assume an air of superiority" and not treat a child as an equal, and that is one dictionary definition of "condescend."
REAL baby deer are nowhere near as helpless as Bambi. The exagerrated helplessness of Bambi is what makes him cute, because it instills in us an exagerrated sense of, in this case, physical superiority. Actually, I'd argue that in terms of stamina and agility, deer are far superior to humans. Watching Bambi stumble on the ice is, at its core, sadistic. My sister learned to duplicate this by placing tape on the feet of our kitten so he would slip on our kitchen floor. She thought it would look cute.
Convincing children a preposterous story like Santa Claus is fact exagerrates their mental helplessness, like placing tape on the feet of a kitten to make him slip. The slip, in the case of children believing in Santa, is mental. It's sadistic. I agree that as "superior creatures" it is our duty to help children, is teaching them a lie and laughing at them for believeing us accomplishing that?
You mentioned a few muppets. Consider Elmo and Barney. Both are childlike, both teach how to be good people. Why is Elmo loved and Barney despised? Because Elmo is small, like a child, and therefore helpless. Barney is, in fact, larger than even adults, and this creates a sort of inherent dilemma of a giant child that cannot be controlled, something that annoys everybody. Like the expression, "Quit being such a big baby!" I should hope that parents do teach their children that Cookie Monster & company are just puppets. I'm not sure what you mean by "ruling them out." There's a difference between suspending your disbelief for a television show and believing it is real.
"I was the child in kindergarten that made many children cry because Santa wasnt real. Maybe I have some repressed guilt about bursting all their holiday bubbles."
Another interesting dilemma. Surely "apostate" sites like this burst many people's religious bubbles. Isn't truth more important than comfortable delusion? You should give yourself more credit than to call yourself "brainwashed" for telling your peers in gradeschool that they were being fooled. Wasn't it your classmates who were brainwashed?
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Celebrites in the Borg
by what_Truth? ini was wondering how many famous actors, musicians, and other public figures either are jw's or became jw's at some point in their life.
eveyone knows about [b] prince{b], and [b]michael jackson[/b], but i've also heard that they snagged up [b]george benson[b], a former indian prime minister and rapper [b]dres[/b] of the group the black sheep.
obviously this will be a short list since the society doesn't do much to encourge any kind of success, especially not the kind that will leave you with millions of adoring fans.
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MungoBaobab
This is frickin' amazing. Dwight Eisenhower and Ginger Spice both JWs. The TRUTH really is stranger than fiction!
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Should I teach my kids about Santa Claus? (Lie vs. Harmless Fantasy)
by AlmostAtheist inmy wife and i got on a discussion about something i never would've guessed we'd need to.
she wants to teach our new baby about santa claus, easter bunny, & tooth fairy, but i don't.
of course, as witnesses we never would have taught that, and i have to acknowledge that i may only be reasoning using that old set of values.. i don't want to look into my kid's eyes and tell her something that i know for a fact isn't true.
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MungoBaobab
Why is it so cute when a child believes in Santa Claus?
It's the same reason Bambi is cute. Remember when Bambi goes out on the ice and keeps falling down? He's cute because he's so helpless. This helplessness stirs certain instincts within us; certain parental instincts. Parenting, among many other things, can be a condescending excercise ("Don't mother me!"). We feel superior to Bambi when we see him flail on the ice, and that moves us to want to help him; to parent him.
Children who trust their parents because they have to; they're born completely ignorant and it's a parent's job to teach them. This also makes children extremely gullible, as they do not have the experience to judge for themselves whether something is true. This gullibility, this intellectual helplessness, is no different than laughing, even warmly, as Bambi falls down on the ice.
When we think it's cute that a child believes in Santa Claus, we're really thinking, "Aww. Look how gullible and ignorant that little boy/girl is."
If you find this line of reasoning interesting, I suggest reading Cute, Quaint, Hungry, and Romantic by Daniel Harris.
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Did You Know How To Explain The Beliefs of Jehovah's Witnesses?
by minimus inone of the things jws pride themselves in as that they know their bible (new world translation).
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MungoBaobab
I cringed the one time as an adult I had to tell someone I believed (yeah right) in Adam & Eve.
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"Hello Carlo"
by czarofmischief inremember that moment in the godfather when carlo gets into the car and the guy behind him says, "hello carlo" and you know what's going to happen next?.
anyother choice moments in cinema we'd care to share tonight?.
czar
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MungoBaobab
"You don't seem to want to accept the fact that you're dealing with an expert in guerilla warfare. With a man who's the best. With guns, with knives, with his bare hands. With a man who's been trained to ignore pain. To ignore weather. To live off the land! To eat things that would make a billy goat puke! In Vietnam his job was to dispose of enemy personell. To kill. PERIOD! To win by attrition. Well Rambo was the best."
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Perfection
by Deputy Dog inperfection
after a discussion with a couple of current jws, it's come to my attention that my conception of perfection in "the kingdom" is very different from theirs.
on pages 188 & 189 of the knowledge book, we see the society's (or artist's) conception.
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MungoBaobab
If everyone has a perfect body then won't EVERYBODY have a big ding dong?