Posts by PaNiCAtTaCk

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Outright Lie in the Reasoning Book

by PaNiCAtTaCk in

under the topic "are jehovahs witnesses a sect or a cult?

the last sentence of the first paragraph says "they do not look to any human, but rather to jesus christ, as their leader.".

if an active witness were to make this exact statement to an elder, he or she would throw up a red flag!

PaNiCAtTaCk

Under the topic "Are Jehovahs Witnesses a sect or a cult?"

The last sentence of the first paragraph says "They do not look to any human, but rather to Jesus Christ, as their leader."

If an active Witness were to make this exact statement to an Elder, he or she would throw up a red flag! .

This statement is made for a witness to read or discuss with someone who is asking if the Witnesses are a cult. By only sharing this info they are misleading people. In fact, in the 2 paragraphs under this heading the organization isnt even mentioned!

The second paragraph gos on to say that "They neither follow a human nor isolate themselves from the rest of society.

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unreasonable to expect the JW's to fix everyones houses!

by PaNiCAtTaCk in

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ive been twice to hurricane rebuilds.

i helped with hurricane andrew and maryland.

yes, its true that 98 percent of the people we helped were mostly the jw's.

PaNiCAtTaCk

I didnt realize they were listed somewhere officially as a charity. Thats not honest when they will only fix JW's homes. To be listed as a charity one would think that they could donate to the wt and it go to anyone who needed it. Things are clearer to me now. The reason I insinuated they may be struggling financially is.

Dropping WT/AWake subscriptions
Going to all paperback books
A while back I heard the Presiding Overseer state that they were having to turn there WT sign out now instead of leaving it on all the time because they were hurting financially.

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unreasonable to expect the JW's to fix everyones houses!

by PaNiCAtTaCk in

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friends

ive been twice to hurricane rebuilds.

i helped with hurricane andrew and maryland.

yes, its true that 98 percent of the people we helped were mostly the jw's.

PaNiCAtTaCk

i didnt know they were registered as a charity. Where is this at and with who are they registered?

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unreasonable to expect the JW's to fix everyones houses!

by PaNiCAtTaCk in

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friends

ive been twice to hurricane rebuilds.

i helped with hurricane andrew and maryland.

yes, its true that 98 percent of the people we helped were mostly the jw's.

PaNiCAtTaCk

Ive been twice to hurricane rebuilds. I helped with Hurricane Andrew and Maryland. Yes, its true that 98 percent of the people we helped were mostly the JW's. Other than cleaning up the yards of adjacent houses and minor construction we really just helped the JW's. But I guess I dont understand what so many on this board expect the Witnesses or the society to do. The society is struggling financially and cutting costs like most all of the major companies in the United States. Most all of the workers are Janitors and Window washers with a few wealthy witnesses thrown in. I know my parents have given money and supplies to the JW Victims from New Orleans. They live in Arkansas and had a few staying in there congregation. Many got together and helped them giving them money, food and a place to stay. My mom told me yesterday that another group from my old congregation is going this next weekend to help rebuild the brothers homes. What plan of action are you guys suggesting the Society take? Build everyone new houses? Give them 2000 debit cards? Sure the society is helping there own but why is that so wrong? Where do you draw the line? Should they give all there money to the victims and then shut the watchtower down? There main goal is preaching and spreading there version of the truth and they are going to protect that above all. If they are struggling financially to get enough magazines printed because of costs then hurricane funding is going to be limited and especially to those not witnesses. If my family lost everything in a hurricane and I wasnt fortunate enough to have the money of the Catholic church or the Scientologists then i would devert my moneyds to my family. What is the plan the should take?

I do think its misleading to tell people who call or those at the congregation to make checks payable to world wide work. But i do not see anything wrong with taking care of your own people as the Society does.

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If raised JW - or in while young - how strict were your parents?

by Jamelle in

i'm just curious to know where my parents register on the scale of strictness...

growing up, i felt absolutely smothered by my parents (mostly my mother).

the things i couldn't do were above and beyond the limitations put on the other young people in our hall.

PaNiCAtTaCk

I remember helping my mom and sister destroy her "Another one bites the dust" CD by Queen after backmasking was mentioned at the bookstudy.
I went to a trade show with my dad in Memphis TN to look at new merchandise for the family business and being asked to preview a new cartoon that might be aired on TV. I was interviewed by a couple of people afterward and of course I loved it. It ended up being very successful. You may have heard of it, its called SMURFS! About 6 years later I was having to throw away my Smurf Village after they were called blue devils and a demon story was told at the Hot Springs AR, convention.
I would get in big trouble for saying Gosh or anything like that so me and my friends starting saying DOG. So if something went wrong I would just say Oh DOG. It was quickly pointed out that DOG is God spelled backwards and that it was just as bad!
I remember having to leave the drive in Theatre because Ghostbusters got to bad for us to watch. We didnt know it was on that night or we would have never make the 20 mile drive and attempted to watch it.
When I had sleep overs we always had to go in service even if we stayed up till 6 in the morning, which we always did.
No spiderman Cartoons or Scooby doo ghost cartoons.
My worldly Grandma would call us and tell us to come get our Christmas present every year. My mom would have me call her back and tell her that we couldnt accept it until January.
We walked out of lots and lots of movies. In fact back in the 80's there were always JW's mentioning how that had to walk out of this movie or that movie. It was like they were going to movies just so they could walk out and tell everyone.
I remember when I was ten my parents getting a sheparding call. My mom and dad told me to go outside and play but the Elders quickly said that it would be good if I stayed to hear them. They were giving us a sheparding call because my Moms hours had slipped below the national average and they were going to remove her from playing the piano at the congregation as she had done for years and years and years. My parents are self imployed and they were having to work Saturdays and long hours.So after that we made Sunday our service day after the meeting. That was the first time I remember seeing my Mom Cry and she did it right in front of the two Elders and my Dad.

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Thinking of getting reinstated? Read my story.

by Jez in

a lot has happened to me since march.

i have learned so much.

i hesitated to put this out in jwd, but i now think that if it helps one person, it will have been worth it.

PaNiCAtTaCk

i really enjoyed your experience and I feel for you. Thank you for sharing that with us.

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Have I been red flagged?

by searching4? in

i find it very weird that in 13 years, not one jw has come knocking on my door.

i don't live in my home town and have had no contact with witnesses ( besides my mom) since i was disfellowshipped in 1992. is it possible that my mom ( still a witness) has alerted the local kingdom hall and had me placed on the " do not call" list?

or maybe i just live in the area of slacker witnesses?

PaNiCAtTaCk

This could be a great test! Pray to Jehovah and ask him to have those of the 1 true religion come to you and see if the JW's show up! Then you will know if its the truth or not :)

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What the heck is going on with the worsening world conditions!!!!!

by PaNiCAtTaCk in

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another hurricane and the most powerful on record!!

mudslides, earthquakes, energy prices!

where is all this leading to?

PaNiCAtTaCk

Another Hurricane and the most powerful on record!! Mudslides, Earthquakes, Energy prices! Where is all this leading to? What will things be like in 20 years? Does anyone have any non End time opinions?

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leaving

by Lo-ru-hamah in

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to those of you that have been jw's for many years... i would like to know how it is that you have transferred to your new life.

my family and i are in the process, actually, we have left because of many of the issues brought up on this forum.

this, being jw's, is all that we have ever known.

PaNiCAtTaCk

Glad to have you guys here!!! Myself and the family are about 6 or 7 months ahead of you guys and things have really gotten better for us. Finally seperating from meeting and service completely really helped break the control. Only then can you see the subtle mind control techniques they use. Another thing you need to do is READ, READ, READ. Read this forum and read cult related books to see for yourself if the JW's are in fact a CULT. Also see both sides of every issue, something that as witnesses you were never allowed to do! You dont have to stop believing in Jehovah or Christ Jesus. I am not a Born again like some have turned. As a family we simply read and interpret for ourselves, not allowing any man to tell us " you must believe this way or that way!" I encourage you to read Crisis of Conscience if you havent yet. Also "Combatting cult mind control" written by a former moonie will really help you. And its not even apostate reading.

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Hi everyone I am new here

by acuragirl in

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this is a new thread started from the one my husband left yesterday............ hi everyone,this is gringojjs wife.i thankyou all for your comments and your help,really makes me feel better about my situation especially since i see that most of what im going through alot of you have been through the exact same thing.it makes me realize im not the only one and that i can get through this tough time like most of you have.i can really identify with the poster who made the comments about being scared after leaving,not realizing if it was the right decision or not.i am really scared of armagedon,of invisible wicked forces the wts teaches you to turn away from,just like the poster i watched a horror film a couple nights ago and it was about demonism,i was extremely scared i was going to be bothered by the demons for getting involved in watching those kinds of movies.its ridiculus how scared i was,just believing in satan and his demons,and what they could or could not do.something my husband doesnt really understand because he doesnt believe in satan or jehovah or a god at all,but when you do believe its scary to think you are upseting god or on the side of satan.i dont know where i am at right now i do know that im confused,the witnesses coming to the door,halloween coming up......which btw i celebrated last year but my concience is really doing me in this time.........i dont know what to do with the kids !

do they celebrate do they not?i dont know, when the time comes mabe i will but i know one thing i have to make a choice, for my husbands sake,for my sanity,and for our children.i am glad i have people to share my pain and suffering with,my mother says i dont want to suffer at all because im afraid of losing my husband if i become baptized,she says thats what you have to do for the truth....suffer....im not going to be happy suffering through life and for what?mabe nothing.i am not afraid of losing my husband i am afraid of dissapointing my mom but im not going to stay in a religon that makes me totally screwed up in the head.i used to have panic attacks when i was attending meetings i havent had one since not attending,i still have exterme anxiety from worry and fear but no panic attacks....hm....go figure!last thing,the other day a born again christian approched me by my local post office and asked me if i was interested in attending his church.i simply told him no thankyou my children are already screwed up enough from the jws.

PaNiCAtTaCk

Hi, you and I have alot in common. We both went through panic attacks, hence my name Panicattack! Mine have also subsided since walking away from the meetings. I am also off the Lexapro, Xanax, Clenozapan ect. ect. Two things helped me when I was major confused about what to do with the truth or what to do with the rest of my life if this wasnt the truth. I started seeing a psychologist which helped tremendously. After only a couple of visits I started realizing alot of the concerns i was panicing over were ridiculous. One of my concerns was that Satan might be the one dragging me away from Jehovah and his organization. I had been feeling constant guilt for a good while. Alot of the guilt was brought on by my Mom who I love and respect very much and who was only trying to rescue her son for Satan and his demons. The biggest thing that helped me was getting Educated. After the psychologist helped me to reason that considering both sides of an issue was a normal thing and that for one to consider both sides of his religion was acceptable and not sipping from the glass of the demons as I always been taught. I finally started reading to see what issues were out there. I read Crisis of Conscience, In search of Christian freedom, Combatting cult mind control, empowering people to think for themselves and im not reading Gentile times reconsidered. The fear, guilt and obligation to the society is now gone. I still believe in Jehovah and Christ Jesus. I dont do drugs, cheat on my wife and i dont have demon problems. If something bothers my conscience I DONT DO IT! I basically let my bible trained conscience decide whats wrong or right when the bible isnt black and white on the issue. I hope some of these things help. Just educate yourself. Knowlege is power. Message me if I can help.