there are some really weird and interesting names on this site.
just out of interest, lets swap details of how we selected our chosen "stage name", it could be fun!.
i chose "englishman" when i first started to lurk at h20.
Well, I chose Billygoat basically because it was a name my parents (lovingly at the time) gave to me because of my stubborness and natural curiosity. I was a rather willful child and my dad encouraged me to think for myself and ask lots of questions. He doesn't like to call me that anymore because of that scripture that talks about the "separation of the sheep and the goats". It seems that the stubborness and curiosity he so loved and encouraged seemed to bite him in the butt.
Billygoat
heres a bizarre story....tell me what you think!.
court shouldn't regulate one's right to have sex .
by kathleen parker .
Bigboi,
I have some new respect here for you because you showed humility in one of your threads. Just try to remember that people are talking from their own experiences. When you haven't experienced what they're talking about (especially stuff from women) it's a good idea to just sit back, shut up, and say you understand. You don't have to agree. Heehee! I'm glad you got everything resolved!
Billygoat
i would sincerely like to know what is so wrong with jehovah's witnesses.
i invite anyone to post here.
please use facts not personal opinions.. i am not interested in dates, the blood issue, nor the disfellowshipping issue since i am conviced that these do not prove that they are wrong.. i am weighing in to see if you as an opposer of jehovah's witnesses have the facts or not.
GodRules,
You'll notice that the first sentence of my earlier post says my opinion of JW in general:
"I honestly feel that most - most being the keyword - JW's are good people. "
My comments are general and of course they're coming from my experience. (Whose experience was I supposed to base them on??? Duh.) I do believe there are heartfelt, genuinely good JW's out there - I was friends with many and I feel I was one of them. But the majority of the hypocrisy I saw was within the leadership of the congregations I was in. From age 8 to age 19 I was in six different congregations. Within each congregation I "witnessed" hypocrisy in the local eldership. After hearing other people's story it SEEMS that others have experienced the same thing.
I stand by my statement...I'VE WITNESSED more hypocrisy in the Kingdom Halls than in the "Christendom" churches I've attended. Notice I didn't say I was stating fact - only God knows that for sure. I was stating what I'VE WITNESSED.
What I've also WITNESSED is that when my church has made a mistake, it admits it. It's publicly apologized and humbly taken it's hits because of it. When the WTS "adapts to change" as you put it, do they apologize for having believed incorrectly? Have they tried to make amends to those that the former beliefs have harmed? If you can prove to me where the WTS has EVER apologized for teaching incorrect information, I'll take back this comment.
Billygoat
this morning i went for a haircut, and since my usual stylist (caroline, quick with the clippers and a joke, does magic with my floppy mop of hair), was out, i told the receptionist i'd settle for whoever was available.
after a moment i was handed over to "winnie," whom i recognized as a witness from a neighboring congregation -- alas, not before she'd roughly dunked my head in the sink.
i was pretty sure she recognized me, too.. "so how have you been, dedalus," she said.. "um, just fine, and you?
At least nobody will see THAT haircut!
Billygoat
please read and pass on to a loved one.
please take the time to read:.
this is very disturbing, please forward to warn others... everyone is.
Man, I wonder if that would have helped me place more mags - if I showed my boobs? Talk about some pretty fruitful return calls! Haha!
Billygoat
cynthia cieluch .
thursday, july 19, 2001 .
san antonio express-news .
Haha! Harm this is too cute! I never looked at my failed marriage as a "starter marriage". I like that so much better! I was just practicing...haha!
Mouse potato,
Billygoat
what about the biblical truths explined by the witnesses?
yes there are many things wrong with the organisation, but they did get a lot right - trinity, hell etc etc is anyone grateful for some of the teachings they received whilst being a witness?.
aud8
Billygoat's Top 10 Positive Things I Learned as a JW:
10. How to work hard.
9. How to speak publicly without fainting.
8. Wear comfortable shoes at all times.
7. That not everything is what it seems.
6. That an 11 o'clock break at the local Quick Shop is still fun!
5. Look for truth in people's actions - not their words.
4. That compared to a Watchtower lesson, watching "Ishtar" isn't that bad.
3. Country music sucks!
2. Rap music sucks!
and the number one positive thing I learned as a JW?
1. How to stand up for what I believe - even if family believes something else. (Boy that backfired on 'em, didn't it???)
My 2 cents,
Billygoat
i would sincerely like to know what is so wrong with jehovah's witnesses.
i invite anyone to post here.
please use facts not personal opinions.. i am not interested in dates, the blood issue, nor the disfellowshipping issue since i am conviced that these do not prove that they are wrong.. i am weighing in to see if you as an opposer of jehovah's witnesses have the facts or not.
I honestly feel that most - most being the keyword - JW's are good people. They just can't think for themselves. I remember my JW father criticizing people that don't question what religion they're brought up in. That most people just take what's given to them. Funny I think...that I questioned what I was brought up in and told to keep quiet.
My biggest beef is that they claim to be the one and only True Religion and say that living what they preach is what makes them stand apart. I've seen more hypocrisy in every Kingdom Hall than any other Christian church I've ever been to. Someone can tell me all day long what they feel is right. But to me, proof is in the pudding. I don't listen to words anymore. I look at actions. I see more actions in "Christendom" than in the WTS.
Billygoat
hi gang,.
i remember my baptism at the ripe old age of 13 at an assembly with the jw's.. i did it to shut everyone up and to please my parents.. after i ran away from the wtbts and home....it is like i went on a crusade of baptisms.. i was baptized as a mormon.....and then as a born again christian.......(prawn again christian).
i think that eventually i gave up through being water logged...... but i am curious to know if any others around here have been so.....errr.....dumb?????.
Spike - LOL!
I was dunked twice. Once at 16 as a JW and again at 25 in a Protestant church. I wanted to be baptized, but felt since the first time was done for the wrong reason, I'd do it again.
Now I don't feel the need to be baptized again, should I join another church. Like Prisca, I feel my baptism is with God - not a church.
Billygoat
i've just had a really interesting chat with my nearest and dearest.. .
we were talking about the fact that when one of us dies the other will be left alone.
we agreed that the surviving one should be able to talk about the deceased one without adopting a holy sepulchral voice and that both our spoken and remembered memories of each other will be full of fun and laughter.. we also agreed that the surviving mate would want to build a new life, take on fresh interests and travel the world as much as possible.
That's great! If only all couples were that healthy - we wouldn't have the divorce rates we do. I'm glad things are going well for you!
Billygoat
