Hysterical!
Especially on the application form:
Please allow four to six years for processing.
rule one:.
if you pull into my driveway and honk you'd better be delivering a. package, because you're sure not picking anything up.. .
rule ten:.
Hysterical!
Especially on the application form:
Please allow four to six years for processing.
hello everyone, i haven't been on the forum for quite a while.
i have been trying to move on with my life i guess and succeeding to some extent - got a new job and getting out and about more etc.
for anyone that remembers i have a jw son, his wife and a one year old grand daughter who i have been trying to keep in my life after deciding i didn't want to have anything to do with the cult myself.
Dear Maddie
I didnt know all of yoru situation. Please try not to blame yourself for the way you handled it - I think even if you had said nothing they may have decided to throw in the towel as it were anyway. My family began the shunning before i was disfellowshipped as did numerous friends and I'd only stopped attending meetings for a short while and none of them had witnessed my trangressions, so they try you and execute the sentence before you even get to a judicial in some cases.
I know none of that helps with the actual pain of not being able to see and touch your grand daughter and son and i just wanted you to know your pain is shared. The only consolation i have is that they are in my dreams most nights, so I get to spend time with them then.
With love
Nina
to terrence mckenna?
i believe him one of the greatest philosophers of the late 20th.. .
the apocalypse is not something which is coming.
Philosopher, social commentator, comedian.
Some gems in there.
for those of you that don't know me in person and think im a hateful grump, well that is not the real me.. .
the real me is a friendly,sociable person.
the real me likes to talk with people and laugh.. .
The 'real' any one is a mixture of personalities. Everyone has a mind split into warring factions.
There is the faction of What I Want Everone To Think Of Me. This faction almost always appears good and noble. This is the guy we show to the world. This is who I think I am.
Another faction is the Ugly Slimy Bastard. He is every bit a part of who we are. We just dont like to admit it.
In a perfect world people would only ever see the person that I picture myself to be. That would be awesome. Alas, some people also see the Ugly Slimy Bastard and call him out. People who see only the me that I want them to see are decent good people.
People who see the ugly slimy bastard that is also a part of who I am, well they are just rotten ones.
Sometimes, IPSEC, you are pure genius.
Sometimes ugly slimy bastard. Does that make me half decent?
Seriously - very astute post. When confronted with choices, however briefly, the unethical may cross our minds, even just for the purposes of comparison.
for the record - you are good people.
thinking about just giving it up....i always revert back to a nightly habit.....and the occasasinal big escape into the bottle.
but of course you can't live there, and it fixes nothing.. because i think i do have a problem, i went to some aa meetings and found them to be too much like wt.
if alcholism is a true disease, then why is it the only one that needs god (or a higher power to cure (or cope with).
Oompa in the AA meeting it just seemed to be about higher power drivel. However my first ex is in alcohol counselling and they do exactly that - they teach you how to drink in moderation. In the lockdown rehab he went to for 2 weeks it was total abstinence, but I think that was to break the habit as he had been drinking every day - pretty much since I left, so about 7 years I think. And then after that they stress how important it is to eat something - not only does this absorb alcohol but for some of us used to drinking a lot hunger becomes misinterpreted/translated as need for a drink and then you drink and drink and can't eat anything. he's now back in employment, still drinks and mostly in moderation - like two glasses of wine in the evening although I think he exceeds the limit at weekends still.
I think it has to be based on the individual. I know that I can drink in moderation. I've never been one to drink every day. I have to just do a quick check on my motivation when I want a drink. If its for the purposes of avoiding something or i can't relax without - then that's not a good reason. If however it's because a cold beer on a hot summer's eve with some friends and good conversation sounds like a pleasant past time, then that's a good reason and just remembering that I have my limits.
Limits vary too. One night you can drink a ton and not be pissed. Another night and the second glass starts to msake me feel like the world is tipping and those are the nights where I should not drink anymore.
thinking about just giving it up....i always revert back to a nightly habit.....and the occasasinal big escape into the bottle.
but of course you can't live there, and it fixes nothing.. because i think i do have a problem, i went to some aa meetings and found them to be too much like wt.
if alcholism is a true disease, then why is it the only one that needs god (or a higher power to cure (or cope with).
Oompa - I think its rather brave of you to just say this outright. So in return I'll admit a few things myself, which anyone who has met me probably has worked out by now anyway. (I'm always the last to know - ).
I have always had a tendency to over indulge. Binge drinker since i was 16. Lost friends over it. Lost time over it. Lost health over it. Loss of money. Loss of memory. Loss of relationships. Loss of self respect.
Why - a mixture of fear, social anxiety (I'm very shy - although hardly anyone realises because if you are speaking to me at all then I'm probably drinking), bereavement, anger, loss, relationship stress, work stress, invented-so- i- can- have- drink- stress, boredom, escapism - you name it - every excuse there is in the book...and some!
And sometimes just rarely a glass of wine on its own because I love the taste, savoured over a chat with a friend I feel secure with or a movie - the glass that often doesnt need replenishing and is left half full, because for once it wasnt the focus of my attention.
So I'm working towards making the last scenario the ONLY scenario. But until I do I'm not drinking at all until I have reached a level of confidence that I should have attained when I was a young adult. What has helped has been having someone on my side who actually believes in me and isnt waiting for me to f*** up, like its inevitable. And also deciding that I would go through the painful moments of confrontation about my past and present stone cold sober, analyse them, feel them no matter how painful and still not have a drink. Facing yourself and how you feel is often the hardest thing to do - specially if you've used alcohol all your life not to feel.
I went to AA too - religious aspect put me off, not to mention they were just the miserablest, most self-absorbed bunch I've ever had to spend an hour with.
Right now is the longest I have been in my life without a drop of alcohol. 3 weeks and 3 days. Frankly i dont really miss it. I do miss socialising however. But I will wait until I trust myself to drink in moderation, have practised living the tough feelings instead of running away from them, before I drink again.
Good luck Oompa and anyone else reading your thread who feels the shame of the dependency and wants to seek a way out.
just curious .
any symbolism or meaning to your avatar choice?
mine is actually a gif .
That's me in a hotel room, with only a towel on - yeah all I need is a cocktail in my hand and that would sum up my life.
Brookie, I think you are in the wrong room honey. I've checked under all the towels. Come on over - I have cocktails! My avatar - my ass, but will only be up for 30 minutes and then it will be my ass on a Rockie rock.
last week hambeak was in the hospital having had another stroke and i believe heart attack.
i am not sure if he is following on the board, but he may be at home by now.
i stopped by his work seeing he was determined to be back at work...two days after the hospital...i told him not to, but you know he is stubborn.
Ok.. I just spoke to Hambeak and I swear that he has not lost his sick sense of humor. He answered the phone, "autopsy!"
That's why I love me some hambeak! Thanks for letting us know sparky and hambeak I hope you are looking after yourself and doing well. Thinking of you!
after loubelle's exercise thread, i thought it would be a fun idea to keep a log here and check in with everyone.. i walked 30 minutes yesterday plus after walked to the police station and the witch store about 3 miles away from the y.. food: .
breakfast: 2 pieces of toast: one with pb and the other with honey, coffee.
lunch: hardboiled egg, ham, cheese stick.
I ate pizza rolls. 6 = about 220 calories. I ate way too many of them. NO MORE!
LOL White Dove - its so easy to over indulge on the goodies.
I walked 3 miles to buy cookies today - but they are triple chocolate chip and so that makes it okay in my book and I only ate one. Guilt-tripped myself into 40 minutes pilates with a yoga warm down,
followed by a COOKIE!
if you're still unsure about the hotline to heaven (aka fds), then have a laugh at this truly pathetic story being circulated by the dubs - comments from stephen lett of the groaning body - see below.. to summarise lett's mind-control ramblings:.
angels are directing jws in the ministry - of course!if you don't answer the door - god will kill youif you don't listen to us - god will kill youbrainwashing of minor children is a real winnercalling on empty houses may seem like a waste of time - but to dubs it's the work of angelsfor the bethel drone monitoring this post - wake up and smell the coffee, before you're made to leave your cosy brooklyn office and hack the streets calling on empty houses.. you can be sure lett will be right behind you!.
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As I work away around my house wearing Teva sandals, Eddie Bauer denim shorts, shirtless, long hair blowing in the gentle Sacramento Delta breezes I think "I wonder where those Jehovah's Witnesses are? They haven't been in this neighborhood for 9 months or so. Well good for them, maybe they finally realized there is more to life than harassing their neighbors with the same tired old drivel." (then I shudder remembering I once used to waste my life away doing that exact same thing)
Great post Amicus - I love the sense of peace only slightly haunted by the Nightmare before Freedom evoked by your description of where and how you are now. Beautiful.
I've clocked up 16 months in this apartment - much of which has been self imposed solitary confinement barring a couple of stateside trip-hops and I havent seen hide nor hair of them in my neighbourhood once. Good, I say.