Narcissistic Supply, it's frightening how close you are to a cogent argument. I have to say that I am gleaning a ton of useful new concepts for how to digest and interpret the JW heritage I carry around. So, to be blunt, are JWs mentally disabled? It's a rough job distinguishing between what a JW can do for themselves to get out, and what they are incapable of doing, as a social animal bound with evolutionary dependence to a social group, to get out.
Posts by rmt1
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29If you're happy and THEY know it all HELL breaks loose!!!!!
by SophieG inhi guys...is it me...i am beginning to wonder: is a happy ex-jw a target?
i have had a few run ins this week on fb with random jws trying to check me for things that have absolutely nothing to do with the org.
(please dont ask me why they have not un-friended me!
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If you're happy and THEY know it all HELL breaks loose!!!!!
by SophieG inhi guys...is it me...i am beginning to wonder: is a happy ex-jw a target?
i have had a few run ins this week on fb with random jws trying to check me for things that have absolutely nothing to do with the org.
(please dont ask me why they have not un-friended me!
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I really enjoyed this> Presently I am building cartographic maps of the lunar north pole to identiy feasible landing sites. Is it hard? *$^&@ yes it is. Is it a miserable task? &!^$@ yes. Did I chose, by myself, under no compulsion from a wrinkled fart in a tie, to do this miserable task? Yes. Would I call myself happy? I would say grimly satisfied that my time on earth is being used in some way that resembles me, whether or not that is ever used to any purpose. At least I got to use my own time for my own concern.
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Danger Witness Robinson! Danger!!!
by Marvin Shilmer indanger witness robinson!
danger!!!
today i added a new article to my blog highlighting the danger of power consolidation along with an overt attempt to ready millions for obeying irrational direction from this power.
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Thank you. I left in 1999 and this quote struck me solidly. David Koreshesque. I wish they would have let this one drop earlier.
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Danger Witness Robinson! Danger!!!
by Marvin Shilmer indanger witness robinson!
danger!!!
today i added a new article to my blog highlighting the danger of power consolidation along with an overt attempt to ready millions for obeying irrational direction from this power.
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Can anyone do a more or less quantitative comparison of this strident statement with previous strident statements of the same ilk, with respect to specificity in word choice. With WTS, words have secondary meanings like in doublespeak, and doubleplusgooddubs can hear it like a dog whistle. In my 25 years in I don't recall something with such specificity of wording.
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In the beginning God created the heavens and the Earth...
by geek inthis very first sentence in the bible makes no sense to me, i struggle with it and i am wondering what other's thoughts are on the subject.
don't get me wrong, i believe in god, i believe their is a creator, or atleast i hope their is.
but i struggle with him creating the heavens and the earth, i mean, why would he?
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"Worldly" what does it mean?
by msconcerned ini have recently been using the expression "people not of our faith" and it shocks me to be corrected everytime by, "you mean worldly".
i dont really like the word worldly because i feel it is a degrading word to describe people we love so much that we try to find them in the ministry.
below are a couple of quotes from recent watchtowers that really give us the esscence of the word worldly as far as the watchtower is concerned.. janusz, who lives in eastern europe, became engrossed in his gardening business.
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I highly recommend Dan Simmon's Hyperion, which is a space-age Canterbury Tales. The first chapter is about a parasite that does anything and everything to preserve itself, including preventing the host from leaving a specific small area sufficient to find enough tubers to live. The host's entire former human and intelligent self is truncated, amputated into a pale shadow with no memory, no future, only a permanent now. The parasite is in the shape of a tiny cross, and its preferred spot to attach to the host is on the sternum.
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You owe me a cup of coffee! Said the elder who caught me in my pajamas just now.
by Julia Orwell insaid the elder who came to our door this morning.
last time he came we weren't in a position to give him one because we were doing a big cleanup.
today- well, i was in my pyjamas!.
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Harry, I'd like to encourage you to visit the Kingdom Hall.
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Fight For The Kids.
by Narcissistic Supply inis pretty much all i've got to say.
do whatever you can to help the children in all of this.
build bridges with them.
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I got my natal charts read by the mother in law. (As well as did the test called Clifton Strengths Finder, which I recommend to those who haven't had a lot of time to get to Really know themselves now that they're are out of the cult, it's past halftime, and you're down a few joints and all that youthful vitality, immunity, looks.) According to the chart, my major node or what have you is in the House of Children. That came as a surprise, because I think kids are sticky. The finest hours I had were in a car group, where I would impose irony and absurdity on the short people until they started thinking or giggled uncontrollably, so that my work for the day was done. But never wanted any. My father's behavior, a medical wrath problem combined with the authorized leather belt of a family "head", sealed that opinion. So when I heard the mother-in-law's news that oh, I'm supposed to think about the children, I did not have any obvious options to help actual children. I only hope that the things I do with young adults (I'm 40) will make the future a place where fewer children have to suffer very long in the JWs.
And how do you help JW kids anyway? Without a legal framework to save them from mental, emotional, cerebral abuse (I vote to add that one to the books). They already get away with sexual abuse, which I suppose is the most egregious thing to get away with.
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Personality Disorders Attracted to JWism
by skeeter1 inare there personality disorders that find the watchtower an appealing fit?
i have read it before that people with personality issues are attracted to extreme religions, and that extreme religions can make a "normal" person mentallly ill. .
to start off with, i was reading about obsessive-compulsive disorders and this "profile" seemed like the "normal" jws i know:.
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I enjoy the study of human spaceflight. One of the credos easily tossed around about the Apollo program was that 'better is enemy of good enough'. The designs and tests had to pass a certain very high specification, had to get the very hard job done, but no more. They had to do a great thing by a close deadline, and money was made available ('Waste anything but time'). As far as I can tell, the Apollo program is antithetical to the JW program, which siphons as much money as is made available for as long as possible, constantly insisting on an enhanced, additional shaving of perfection that does not exist in the real world of flesh and blood, with never a hard deadline stated boldly, and quite a few slipping dates that were intoned only suggestively, and always with plausible deniability. Anyway, 'better is enemy of good enough' is a fine rule to keep in mind.
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The Orwells are so naughty! Filthy little apostates we are.
by Julia Orwell inmy husband has started playing violent samurai video games again!
he's grown a beard!
he watched lord of the rings!.
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I am curious to hear any anecdotes about present-day JWs and LOTR, now that the movies have come out. When I was still in in the 90's I read LOTR, then Silmarillion, and didn't bother with Hobbit until a groovy career pioneer sister (think if Joni Mitchell or Judy Collins were JWs) recommended it. Then while still in I was hooked and went through Unfinished Tales, Book of Lost Tales, History of Middle Earth 3 and 4. One day sitting at the CA I reflected that if I had any choice in the matter, but had to chose religion over no religion, I would choose to have Tolkien's world be the religious reality I had to contend with. I.e., I would choose to worship an Illuvatar who did cooler things than Jehovah. Jehovah may have stopped the planet from rotating for a day or so (how hot did it get?), but Illuvatar BENT a flat world into a round one! Beat that, Jehovah, you unimaginative noob. Once I was out I went through Letters, biography by Carpenter, Tree and Leaf, Beowulf and the Critics. THEN the movies came out. I can imagine the consternation of a JW experiencing the moving picture of a ring wraith. Any anecdotes? I had a ring wraith action figure on a horse and it never jumped down out of the closet, spun its head around, and recited in the Black Speech of Mordor the complete list of foods to avoid if you're on a high cholesterol diet. I may have missed something that the JWs witnessed.
