My husband always says this whenever there is a mention of Adam and Eve,
How could 2 perfect humans get fooled by a talking snake? How stupid (imperfect) is that? I'm imperfect supposedly and I would never talk to a snake!
5 for god knows that in the very day you eat from it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like god, knowing good and bad.. .
genesis 3:22. jehovah god then said: here the man has become like one of us in knowing good and bad..".
for god knows that in the very day you eat from it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like god, knowing good and bad.?.
My husband always says this whenever there is a mention of Adam and Eve,
How could 2 perfect humans get fooled by a talking snake? How stupid (imperfect) is that? I'm imperfect supposedly and I would never talk to a snake!
did anyone else have a parent who could be described as highly narcissistic who was a jw?
how was that for you growing up?
which was worse - the narcissistic religion or the narcissistic parent?.
Narcissist non-jw father, narcissistic jw mother.
Yes, definitely my parents were worse. With you more time everyday, have way more control legally over your life, children are more emotionally attached/dependent on parents. It is easier to leave an organization than to put permanent distance and contact between you and your parents. People are always suggesting you should forgive and makeup with your parents just because they are sperm and egg donors; and not knowing the details and not entitled to them to judge if you have made the right decision.
just one left, my sister.
i haven't talk to her in over 15 years.
the rest are all dead.. i'm not counting my ex wife and all her family.... .
I am not officially shunned, but family members shunned us when we were still believing, husband elder, me pioneer.
Unofficially shunned even before we stopped attending
2 brothers
2 sister-in-laws
1 uncle
1 aunt
rest are dead
Is it worse to be shunned when you are a jw still or after?
https://www.6sqft.com/welcome-sign-will-soon-replace-the-iconic-watchtower-sign-in-brooklyn-heights/.
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I like dalliance, not what I expected, diligence.
dalliance--brief or casual involvement with something.
a former member said that elders told a relative of his after she was dfed that they would not be praying for her.
is that some kind of policy, or were they just doing their own thing in that instance?
taot.
Yes, stumbling is the universal answer when there is no scripture or worse it is supposed to be a "conscience matter." Even if it is only one person, rest of the congregation must dance to their tune; and of course, the elders will never name the person that might be stumbled or what that person's reasoning might be.
My experience, most often it was that particular elder's wife who did not like something I was doing. I would just point out the elders and/or their wives who were doing the same thing. Then it was dropped.
Of course, if you were the person who was "stumbled," you were told to overlook it and wait on their god to correct it.
https://www.6sqft.com/welcome-sign-will-soon-replace-the-iconic-watchtower-sign-in-brooklyn-heights/.
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I wonder where that idea came from, Rattigan350, that the sign made NYrs proud. The people in Brooklyn Heights found the WTS an irritant reading the Brooklyn newspaper, The Eagle. Just wondering. I don't think people in Manhattan were proud every day they saw the WT sign.
if the wording & context of a scripture is dismissed at the outset, then every statement and assumption which follows is implicititly false.
in the very first study article, the gibbering body continues to indoctrinate the sheeple to accept that over 500 people met jesus on the mountain - despite the blatant fact that 1 corinthians 15:6 says absolutely nothing about the 500 people being anywhere near galilee!
(matthew 28:16-20) however, the 11 disciples went to galʹi·lee to the mountain where jesus had arranged for them (the 11 disciples) to meet.
Rattigan350, you comment made me remember, that this phrase: father, son, holy spirit in this context does not appear anywhere else in the NT.
https://www.6sqft.com/welcome-sign-will-soon-replace-the-iconic-watchtower-sign-in-brooklyn-heights/.
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https://youtu.be/olicvn7ic68.
Wow, wouldn't want that group to show at my door trick or treating. :)
a former member said that elders told a relative of his after she was dfed that they would not be praying for her.
is that some kind of policy, or were they just doing their own thing in that instance?
taot.
Hi Diogenesister,
The WTS does this all the time. They will say, "the Bible does not say" but....then goes on to say what they think as if their thoughts are their god's thoughts.
Isaiah 55:8 (RNWT)
8 “For the thoughts of YOU people are not my thoughts, nor are my ways YOUR ways,” is the utterance of Jehovah.
Example: (2018)
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/402018321?q=%22the+bible+does+not+say%22&p=sen
The Bible does not say that a person should get baptized at a specific age. But...So from the time their children are born, parents should teach them with the goal of helping them to dedicate themselves to Jehovah and become disciples of Christ. Of course, babies do not qualify to get baptized. Still, the Bible shows that even young children can understand and love Bible truth.