"Even though Christmas is not the real anniversary of our Lord's birth, but more properly the annunciation day or the date of his human begetting (Luke 1:28), nevertheless, since the celebration of our Lord's birth is not a matter of divine appointment or injunction, but merely a tribute of respect to him, it is not necessary for us to quibble particularly about the date. We may as well join with the civilized world in celebrating the grand event on the day which the majority celebrate - "Christmas day."" Zion's Watch Tower 1904 Dec 1 p.364
Posts by blondie
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JWs and Christmas
by Rnadomchris83 ini have been lurking around here for years.
i'm not a witness, but my in-laws are.
my wife grew up in it but was never baptized.
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Making Friends with Babylon the Great: Watchtower’s New Goal
by raymond frantz inhttps://youtu.be/iv_uifab-qg?si=ttnajiuizmtqlte9.
it began during the last annual meeting of 2014 and now is trikling down to their watchtower magazines, this new "live and let live" attitude towards people of other faiths, or as they were known as babylon the great soon to be dead in the hands of god members.but it is a new different story, so let's read paragraph 15 from study article 15:.
"jehovah is kind to both the righteous and the unrighteous.
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blondie
Black Sheep, can you post the hard to find quote in the April 2025 article?
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Making Friends with Babylon the Great: Watchtower’s New Goal
by raymond frantz inhttps://youtu.be/iv_uifab-qg?si=ttnajiuizmtqlte9.
it began during the last annual meeting of 2014 and now is trikling down to their watchtower magazines, this new "live and let live" attitude towards people of other faiths, or as they were known as babylon the great soon to be dead in the hands of god members.but it is a new different story, so let's read paragraph 15 from study article 15:.
"jehovah is kind to both the righteous and the unrighteous.
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blondie
Kerry King, can you find and post a link on those UN initiatives?
https://www.uri.org/PPP#:~:text=We%20unite%20to%20heal%20and,set%20forth%20in%20international%20law.
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Making Friends with Babylon the Great: Watchtower’s New Goal
by raymond frantz inhttps://youtu.be/iv_uifab-qg?si=ttnajiuizmtqlte9.
it began during the last annual meeting of 2014 and now is trikling down to their watchtower magazines, this new "live and let live" attitude towards people of other faiths, or as they were known as babylon the great soon to be dead in the hands of god members.but it is a new different story, so let's read paragraph 15 from study article 15:.
"jehovah is kind to both the righteous and the unrighteous.
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blondie
Reporting not supporting
Note the WTS dances around again about what interfaith is; interestingly a congregation buying a building once used for religious reasons is not interfaith because it is a "one-time transaction." "Thus, an act of interfaith is that of sharing in worship or of having spiritual communion with other religious organizations." "In working out the details regarding such a purchase, contact with the other party should be kept to a minimum and should be strictly business" WT 2002 10/15 p. 27 https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2002767
Note the WTS dances around again about what interfaith; interestingly a congregation buying a building once used for religious reasons is not interfaith because it is a "one-time transaction." "In working out the details regarding such a purchase, contact with the other party should be kept to a minimum and should be strictly business" "Thus, an act of interfaith is that of sharing in worship or of having spiritual communion with other religious organizations." WT 2002 10/15 p. 27 https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2002767
Keep in mind that specially selected elders can participate in a forum where other representatives of other religions do the same, it is not a debate. Most often another entity invites jws to participate, but the WTS has to approve and pick the presenter. I can’t find a link specifically to this, but I know from such jw presenters that this is how it works. The WTS carefully monitors what that jw representative will say.
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Former Butler County Jehovah's Witness guilty of sexually assault child
by blondie inhttps://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/news/butler-county-jehovah-witness-sexual-assault-conviction/ child had mental disability....
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blondie
https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/news/butler-county-jehovah-witness-sexual-assault-conviction/ Child had mental disability...
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Found Anthony Morris out in the wild!!!
by BereanThinker7 inthat was click bait.
did it work?
https://youtu.be/_spl7to0m3y?si=gujblhtzkpy0fvzz .
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blondie
Beth Sarim hahahaha Staying away from pythons
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2025**01**15**Ages For Ministerial Servants and Elders!
by Atlantis in2025-01-15-ages for ministerial servants and elders.. see page 2. .
https://pdfupload.io/docs/1b0b5c00 .
https://imgbox.com/p3a9yjmr.
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blondie
Thanks, Petra. Think of you everyday, and Atlantis.
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How Do JWs Understand Salvation & What Is Needed to Obtain It?
by LauraLynn infrom my experience within the jw organization, i understood that salvation meant a person accepted the teachings of the wbts without question as the "faithful and discrete slave," thereby placing their trust in them, not jesus christ.
salvation consisted of being found "righteous" by jehovah and resurrected to everlasting life in an earthly paradise.
to obtain this salvation, one needed to obey the organization's teachings, remain a faithful jw, and lead a moral life.
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blondie
Review of BITE model by Steven Hassan https://freedomofmind.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/BITE-model.pdf
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Found Anthony Morris out in the wild!!!
by BereanThinker7 inthat was click bait.
did it work?
https://youtu.be/_spl7to0m3y?si=gujblhtzkpy0fvzz .
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blondie
Even from the side and beard, this was not Tony, at least not to me. He must have embarrassed the WTS or didn't obey something that the WTS felt was not being loyal enough. He is laying low. One leaves, they appoint another one as bad if not worse. The only time I saw a GB member leave alive were ones that "embarrassed" the WTS.
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News of fires out of control in California
by ballistic inhope everyone near to the region affected in california is ok. it's shocking to hear of the destruction.
these affected areas are some of the places i visited when i came on a tour of the us.
malibu, santa barbera, la, santa monica, hollywood and so on..
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blondie
The WTS does say something, it told their members of all their members who had died and we affected, a very small number compared to the vast # of non-jws that were affected.