I will say this, I went to schools that had practicing Jewish children, Muslim, HIndu and Buddhist. I ended up in the room with them excused from the Christmas events. Nowadays, many non-religious schools leave the Christmas customs out of the school setting.
Posts by blondie
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JWs and Christmas
by Rnadomchris83 ini have been lurking around here for years.
i'm not a witness, but my in-laws are.
my wife grew up in it but was never baptized.
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Why the WATCHTOWER doesn't believe in the GREAT APOSTASY but you should!
by raymond frantz inhttps://youtu.be/i4uttjj7eus?si=0b-fzpqm8axb_d3p.
in its latest april 2025 watchtower study article 17 and paragraph 12 the watchtower promotes 2 dangerous lies that will cost your life if you are a believing christian during the time of the end, so i'm considering today the first lie in the first part of the paragraph, but first let's read the paragraph itself: "today, jehovah promises to provide us with spiritual protection.
he will never allow satan to corrupt true worship.
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blondie
nonJW Christians have many and varied interpretations of who or what the Antichrist is. But the President of the Watchtower Society (died 1916) never specifically identified a person or thing as the Antichrist. The current WTS dances around but says that apostates leaving the organization become part of the Antichrist (although the WTS also teaches that it is possible for apostates to leave their beliefs and return). Reporting not supporting.
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Quoting the Daily Mail at meetings
by Farmer Jim1 ini've just remembered that i attended a hall where one of the brothers consistently quoted daily mail articles to back up his answers during the meetings.
i found it hard to keep a straight face when the inevitable daily mail article was quoted to 'prove' a bible passage at each meeting.. no one really seemed to mind and i remember one time i spoke to an elder and said this has to stop as he is passing off tabloid tattle as hard fact.. elder wasn't interested.
i guess as long as the answers backed up the party line no one cared..
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blondie
Ron W. Hard to swallow that crap!
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Whatever Happened to Those who returned to JEHOVAH
by raymond frantz inhttps://youtu.be/3yylzu0bi_k?si=kku6r9szfenj3h9i.
whatever happened to those who came back to jehovah?
due to slow growth and the constant scrutiny from governments like norway in relation to their harsh disfellowshipping practices,last year in a move that no one expected the watchtower for the first time extended an olive branch to all those who left the organization or were disfellowshipped in the past.considering this practice was introduced over 60 years ago and with a rough estimate that around 100,000 leave jehovah’s witnesses every year the total number is in the several millions.so we should have expected millions to have accepted this invitation and rejoined the organization, the result though was an abysmal few thousands according to a recent jw update.. so now, for the first time, the latest watchtower study magazine for april 2025 gives us an inside view on how this reintegration is coming along, and it doesn't look good!.
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blondie
The WTS is running scared now that at least 2 secular governments are after their charity status. It is all a legal thing. The WTS is an organization run by their legal department. When my husband was an elder, a situation came up and they called the "Service Desk" in NY. They were told that they would have to run it by the Legal Department before they could answer their questions. Legal comes first! Let me add that the elders were told to make supportive visits by the CO and he would check back on his next visit to see how it went. Being trained as a new elder, he was taken on several and both elders just drove up to the house, looked for holiday decorations or the person smoking outside, and determined they weren't home by looking from the vehicle on the street! Then go on to the next one, calling this a drive-by visit between themselves. And then gave an account that did not resemble this at all to the CO. My husband was on the path to leaving then.
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Quoting the Daily Mail at meetings
by Farmer Jim1 ini've just remembered that i attended a hall where one of the brothers consistently quoted daily mail articles to back up his answers during the meetings.
i found it hard to keep a straight face when the inevitable daily mail article was quoted to 'prove' a bible passage at each meeting.. no one really seemed to mind and i remember one time i spoke to an elder and said this has to stop as he is passing off tabloid tattle as hard fact.. elder wasn't interested.
i guess as long as the answers backed up the party line no one cared..
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blondie
Elders can be such cowards when it comes to counseling brothers privately, even other elders.
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For those that like to nerd out over JW history and theology
by BereanThinker7 inhttps://youtu.be/_spl7to0m3y?si=xsydtlmsp5ncenlc .
for those that like to nerd out over jw history and theology.
you will probably find this interesting..
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blondie
Beth Sarim, made me think of this quote from Nazi official Various sources, both popular and scholarly, attribute the following passage to Joseph Goebbels on the big lie: “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.
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"instructions that aren't sound by a human standpoint"
by mikeflood inwhat could be "an instruction not sound by a human standpoint"?.
i'm going by dissolving their legal entities...any guesses?.
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blondie
Beth Sarim, it is like the WTS refers to Acts 15 to prove there is a governing body, but that phrase never occurs in the bible even the RNWT. Most jws never notice that because it is usually just cited not quoted in the publication. I have shown that to long time jws, and it is such a surprise to them. I say, wouldn't it be embarrassing to think it did while showing it to a person at the door? (exegesius That's a new word for me, unfortunately most jws including the governing body wouldn't get it now. I'll see if I can ever use that word.) Thanks for sharing.
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Making Friends with Babylon the Great: Watchtower’s New Goal
by raymond frantz inhttps://youtu.be/iv_uifab-qg?si=ttnajiuizmtqlte9.
it began during the last annual meeting of 2014 and now is trikling down to their watchtower magazines, this new "live and let live" attitude towards people of other faiths, or as they were known as babylon the great soon to be dead in the hands of god members.but it is a new different story, so let's read paragraph 15 from study article 15:.
"jehovah is kind to both the righteous and the unrighteous.
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blondie
Vidiot, humility teaches us all about the kind of people there are out there.
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For those that like to nerd out over JW history and theology
by BereanThinker7 inhttps://youtu.be/_spl7to0m3y?si=xsydtlmsp5ncenlc .
for those that like to nerd out over jw history and theology.
you will probably find this interesting..
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blondie
Eventually, I found it to be a wash-rinse-repeat cycle after reviewing the WT study articles for so many years on here. It is more dumbed now than ever, with WT study articles being repeated from past years. Short memories some jws have need constant reminding.
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My Beliefs After Leaving the Watchtower
by KalebOutWest ini tend to keep my personal beliefs separate from my posts.. i know that is often different from others as their posts as often one and the same with their opinions.
i think that is good.
you get to learn a lot about people that way.
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blondie
I have found that my beliefs have changed a great deal in regard to what the WTS has taught and is teaching. It takes awhile to wash out those WT ideas, but it is important to replace them with something good and positive and healing. Reflection and carefully looking without the eyes of indoctrination. (23 years physically out, not including 5 years physically in but mentally out.)