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21Crazy Talking JWs on VH1 Forum
by rebel8 inthey're baaaack.
i thought the jws had left that forum, but they haven't.. http://www.vh1.com/interact/boards/main.jhtml/vh1_news_presents/threadlist?offset=0.
check out the most recent thread.
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Did losing your religion send you into/exacerbate depression?
by SixofNine ini think most of us here agree that our past belief in the jw organization as being god's sole chosen people was delusional on our part.
for myself, when i lost that delusion (fairly abruptly too), i came out of a long period of depression immediately.
while i was incredibly angry at having been decieved, i can't say that that anger translated into any other negatives, in fact, overall, i think my general level of anger, even at elders/the gb/etc subsided, as i now understood why they do what they do even better than they themselves understand it.
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lucky
sixofnine,
I left because I had "seen the light", but I guess I should really rephrase that to I had "seen the glow", because when I left, I hadn't been to this site, or even looked up Jehovah's Witnesses on the internet (I was so brainwashed about "apostates" it actually took me three years after I left to get up the courage to type "Jehovah's Witnesses" into google and I was shaking so much I thought I was going to have a heart attack!). I had told myself at a young age (12-ish) that if the society ever changed the teaching on the 1914 generation doctrine that that was my sign that it was not the truth. I had some concerns with various doctrines over the years, but I hadn't read anything apostate (and I was raised a witness), so the concerns weren't too well formulated in my mind. It took me two years after the generation doctrine change to finally get up the courage to leave (my immediate family are all witnesses, so that of course was a major consideration), and even when I did leave, I was so mixed up about everything, I just felt like I was in a big fog for the first year or so. I didn't know how many of the society's teachings I really still believed, or whether I wanted to remain a Christian, or if I even believed in God. Then the enormous sense of freedom finally kicked in and things got better. On my own (and with my husband's help), I started to realize how ridiculous a lot of the teachings were. When I finally found Randy's site and this site, and read Crisis of Conscience, mentally, things really started to fall into place.
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Did losing your religion send you into/exacerbate depression?
by SixofNine ini think most of us here agree that our past belief in the jw organization as being god's sole chosen people was delusional on our part.
for myself, when i lost that delusion (fairly abruptly too), i came out of a long period of depression immediately.
while i was incredibly angry at having been decieved, i can't say that that anger translated into any other negatives, in fact, overall, i think my general level of anger, even at elders/the gb/etc subsided, as i now understood why they do what they do even better than they themselves understand it.
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lucky
I left the organization, graduated from college, moved across the country, and got married to someone I barely knew, all within a six-month period. I was very depressed, almost suicidal, for the first year or so. I didn't have a support network at all, other than my new husband, and he didn't have the foggiest idea what I was going through, which I think actually made it worse (although we're very happily married now, eight years later). The hardest thing for me was losing my sense of purpose. Although I got over the depression fairly quickly, I still struggle with figuring out how to (or if I really need to) "make a difference" in the world.
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Crazy Talking JWs on VH1 Forum
by rebel8 inthey're baaaack.
i thought the jws had left that forum, but they haven't.. http://www.vh1.com/interact/boards/main.jhtml/vh1_news_presents/threadlist?offset=0.
check out the most recent thread.
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lucky
I think the threads must be in reference to a VH1 news special on Michael Jackson's childhood:
http://www.vh1.com/shows/dyn/vh1_news_presents/82010/episode.jhtml
I didn't watch it; did anyone?
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What's the most thought-provoking novel you've ever read?
by lucky ini'd have to say for me that it was ayn rand's the fountainhead.
even though i don't agree with a lot of her philosophy, it definitely made me stumble around in a thought-induced haze for a few weeks after reading it.
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lucky
I'd have to say for me that it was Ayn Rand's The Fountainhead. Even though I don't agree with a lot of her philosophy, it definitely made me stumble around in a thought-induced haze for a few weeks after reading it.
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lucky
"All I Want is You" - U2
"Hands Clean" - Alanis Morrissette (for the unsettling parallels with my own life)
"Tomorrow Wendy" - Concrete Blonde
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What if either Adam or Eve had remained perfect?
by Sith ini've never heard this addressed before.
according to the wts, joe hoba didn't destroy adam and eve when they sinned, because that would have only proven his power...that he could destroy that which he created.
he allowed them to stay alive and multiply so that he could prove the rightness of his rule and to answer satan's criticism.
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lucky
I asked my mom this question when I was about 12. She did a bunch of research but couldn't answer it and eventually asked the "smartest" elder in our congregation to sit down with my and try to answer it after the bookstudy one evening. I can't remember exactly what he said, but it was not a satisfying answer, even to a twelve year old. Afterwards, my mom asked me if the brother had answered my question and when I told her no, she told me that I just needed to "trust in Jehovah". That was the genesis of my real doubts (unfortunately, it took me 12 more years to finally leave).
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How about an "The Onion" type version of the Watchtower?
by Check_Your_Premises ini got the idea from a post i made on another thread.sorry.
i just took my meds.
i suffer from rutheford-russel syndrome.
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lucky
In the spirit of "The Onion":
Young Pioneer Sister Counseled for Appearing ?Too Hippiesh?
NORTHERN CALIFORNIA ? Eighteen year old pioneer sister Sally Barker was invited into the second school after the Service Meeting by Elders Jim Smith and Bill Brown last Thursday night for some loving counsel regarding her appearance.
After a brief prayer asking for Jehovah?s guidance, Brother Smith started the discussion by commending Sister Barker for her excellent use of connectives during her number three talk earlier that evening. He then informed Sister Barker that a number of the older sisters in the congregation were expressing concern over her style of dress, which they considered to be overly ?hippiesh?. ?We certainly appreciate your desire for modesty and we?re happy that we are not here counseling you about wearing your skirts too SHORT. However, some of the sisters feel that the crinkly texture and long length of a number of your service dresses and skirts may give householders the wrong impression that Jehovah?s people are somehow associated with, or endorse, the hippy movement. We certainly wouldn?t want to be giving that impression, would we??
Sister Barker sat in stunned silence while Brother Brown joined the discussion. ?Additionally, we feel that your long, straight hair may be giving worldly ones the wrong notion. We are sure you would agree it would show a humble, theocratic attitude if you cut your hair and got a perm. We realize that a perm may be expensive on your current part-time, minimum wage income, but we?re sure that Sister Brown and Sister Smith would be happy to assist you with a home perm kit.
?While we?re on the subject, we?d like to bring up your vehicle. Your Volkswagen Beetle not only does not have the recommended four doors, it certainly reinforces the whole hippy image that we are concerned you may be inadvertently portraying. I?m sure that Jehovah would answer a heartfelt prayer if you were to approach him regarding finding an affordable, used four-door Toyota Camry with 300,000 miles on it.
?Another thing that has been brought to our attention is your recent conversion to vegetarianism. I?m sure you are aware that the Israelites ate meat regularly and that even Jesus himself turned one fish into many to feed the masses. We feel that this ?vegetarian? fad is certainly going ?beyond the things which have been written? and bringing reproach on Jehovah?s name. In addition, we are concerned that the lack of protein in your diet may be contributing to fatigue and the fact that you?ve been a few hours short on your time these past few months.?
?Finally, we have been informed by your pioneer partner that you have been encouraging your parents to recycle aluminum and plastic containers at home, as well as newspapers. We must keep in mind that Jehovah will destroy those destroying the earth at Armageddon. Wasting time on these hippy-related environmental programs is simply serving as a distraction from the more important things. We strongly encourage that you discontinue the recycling and instead spend the time on personal study.
?In conclusion, Sister Barker, we commend you for your willing spirit in Jehovah?s service. We are confident that with a few minor changes to your wardrobe, hair, diet, vehicle, and personal practices, you will continue to please Jehovah and set a fine example for the youth in the congregation.?
-sadly, based on a true story.
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How to Get an "X" Marked over Your House on the "Territory Map
by Evanescence inhi guys i found a hilarous joke,.
every time they say "god," or the ever-popular "jehovah-god" say "..or goddess.
* go to the sunday "public meeting" at your local kingdom hall to share the good news of your religion with them.
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lucky
My husband told me that when he was in college he and his roommate saw the witnesses coming down the street and they quickly put on black clothes and some eyeliner. His roommate grabbed a big butcher knife and stood at the top of the stairs and when the witnesses got to their house, my husband opened the door and instructed his roommate to "prepare the infant". Needless to say, they ended up on the do not call list.
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Do you have dreams that you're still in the org.?
by lucky init's weird.
i haven't been to a meeting in eight years, but at least once a month, i have a dream that i'm at a meeting or out in service or at an assembly or in some other witness-related situation.
it's like those school dreams where you dream you have a calculus final that morning and you haven't been to class all semester.
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lucky
It's weird. I haven't been to a meeting in eight years, but at least once a month, I have a dream that I'm at a meeting or out in service or at an assembly or in some other witness-related situation. It's like those school dreams where you dream you have a calculus final that morning and you haven't been to class all semester. I always wake up and breathe an enormous sigh of relief. Anyone else have similar dreams (or should I say nightmares)?