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  An interesting article on the Sons apparent identification as Wisdom

  by Blotty in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  "none of the three apologists attempts to express the coming forth of .

  the word with the verbs ‘to create’ (κτίζειν) and ‘to establish’ (θεμελιοῦν) .

  from prov 8:22–23.

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  With Trinitarians words never mean what they say.

  When church Fathers repeatedly quoted scripture saying God created Wisdom/Jesus they didn’t really mean that God created Wisdom/Jesus.

  When Origen said Jesus is a second god subordinate to God he didn’t really mean he is a second god subordinate to God.

  When Tertullian said there was a time when the Son was not, he didn’t really mean there was a time when the Son didn’t exist.

  When Justin Martyr said Jesus was is angel he didn’t really mean he is an angel.

  When the Shepherd of Hermas identified Jesus with the archangel Michael it didn’t really mean that Jesus is Michael.

  When Paul said Jesus is the firstborn of all creation he didn’t mean that either.

  And when Jesus himself said the Father is greater than I what he really meant to say was that: “one of my dual natures is consubstantial with the Father whereas my other human nature is less than the Father and these two natures subsist yet do not commingle in the one person you see before you.”

  Thanks goodness for Trinitarians, otherwise we could be misled into thinking all these simply meant what they said.
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  2 Peter 1: 1 Corruption in the NWT

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  here's how this verse should read: simeon peter, a servant and apostle of jesus christ, to those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours by the righteousness of our god and savior jesus christ: - 2 peter 1: 1. here's how watchtower prints this verse:.

  simon peter, a slave and an apostle of jesus christ, to those who have acquired a faith as precious as ours through the righteousness of our god and the savior jesus christ: - nwt.

  why did watchtower change this verse by adding the word "the" ?.

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  Earnest provided a useful summary and assessment of subject.

  The AI used a lot of verbiage to try to say the opposite, unsuccessfully in my view.
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  Remember the old governing body ...pics! R.I.P.

  by Witness 007 in

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  Interesting from the chart that Ted Jaracz seems to be the longest serving GB member ever, unless Lösch overtakes him soon. And unless you count membership of the board of directors before that, in which case Fred Franz might be the longest.

  It’s neat there were coincidentally 12 GB members at the time to fit squarely on the page not to mention overtones of the apostles.
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  Remember the old governing body ...pics! R.I.P.

  by Witness 007 in

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  slimboyfat

  Peter Jackson ?

  Might be more entertaining if he was running the show 😉
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  Toasting allowed - BIRTHDAYS will soon follow!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "jehovah’s witnesses do not celebrate birthdays because we (the g.b.

  ) believe that such celebrations displease god.

  https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/birthdays/.

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  slimboyfat

  Yes, I think a number already follow this, more so with birthdays than Christmas though.
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  Toasting allowed - BIRTHDAYS will soon follow!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "jehovah’s witnesses do not celebrate birthdays because we (the g.b.

  ) believe that such celebrations displease god.

  https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/birthdays/.

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  slimboyfat

  I don’t remember anyone saying 70 changes but I do remember (vaguely) one of the GB describing a lengthy process for any change to be agreed and then announced. Ironically perhaps it was Tony Morris who said this, not sure. Or maybe Mark Sanderson or David Splane. I think David Splane was the one who made the weird comment about “we love this new teaching brothers” to some esoteric tweak they made. It’s so much more difficult to track down these phrases in the video era. (Though no doubt AI could easily search all the videos, and other useful features, shortly before they eliminate humans entirely.)
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  Slimboyfat: Why did you decide to write a topic on this site saying you were going back to the Jehovah's Witnesses?

  by silentbuddha in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the topic concerning why the other user allows jw's by to eat is what prompted this thought in my mind.

  maybe i am not remembering this correctly, but seem to remember a number of years ago that you decided to stop posting here and then all of a sudden you posted that this was an apostate website, you didn't want to be here, and that you were returning to jehovah.

  ( i may be slightly off, but it was something along those lines.. i am just wondering if you ever offered an explanation of why you did that?.

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  One of the strangest encounters I had at a church was a man who had joined at least four different groups. He had been a JW, a Mormon, a Pentecostal, and he was at a Seventh-day Adventist Church when I met him. He said he left the JWs because they were anti-semitic, which I found surprising. He claimed he was at a Watchtower that was shamefully bashing Jews. He said the Mormons wanted his credit card details as soon as he got baptised and he never went back. And he said the Pentecostals were demonic.

  Groups I’ve not yet visited that I’d like to visit:

  Bible Students (if any can be found)

  Salvation Army

  Coptic

  Orthodox

  Lutheran

  And I forgot on the above list that I visited the New Apostolic Church too, a strange cultic church that is strong in Germany and parts of Africa whose dubious claims to fame are that they supported the Nazis in the Third Reich and predicted the end of the world in the 1950s.
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  Toasting allowed - BIRTHDAYS will soon follow!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "jehovah’s witnesses do not celebrate birthdays because we (the g.b.

  ) believe that such celebrations displease god.

  https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/birthdays/.

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  Vidiot I looked it up and they still used the term “Babylonish practices” in the Isaiah books at the turn of the millennium.
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  Japan closes 638 Congregations!!!!! Why???

  by Witness 007 in

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  2. scandals

  japan since the 1970''s has had amazing publisher increases!

  every year the number of witnesses shot up by many thousands.

  this peaked in 1998, since then the number of witnesses and congregations has continued to drop!.

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  Yes, congregation numbers show greater decline than publisher numbers, which is probably a fairer reflection of decline as experienced by JWs in Japan.

  I wonder if the end of JW growth in Japan coincides with a broader disillusionment with American influence in Japanese culture in general. I don’t know much about Japan except that they experienced economic problems since the early 1990s and turned to a more nationalistic orientation as a result.

  If Japan is experiences secularisation in any way similar to that in western countries in recent decades then the decline of JWs might be part of broader secularisation. Like in many western countries it may be the case that JWs are declining at a slower rate than other groups.
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  Toasting allowed - BIRTHDAYS will soon follow!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "jehovah’s witnesses do not celebrate birthdays because we (the g.b.

  ) believe that such celebrations displease god.

  https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/birthdays/.

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  slimboyfat

  It’s perhaps just an inference from the other changes that have been made rather than a specific rumour.