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  Col 2:16, the scripture that blows away all of WT's Pharasitical man-made rules and cult guilt trips

  by WingCommander in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  colossians 2:16.

  "ironically enough, i never even knew about this bible verse until i had grown up and was pomo of the watchtower cult.

  read it, then read it again.

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  slimboyfat

  Just out of interest, does anyone read these AI posts?

  Try giving this post a thumbs up if you do read the AI posts and a thumbs down if you don’t read the AI posts.
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  Col 2:16, the scripture that blows away all of WT's Pharasitical man-made rules and cult guilt trips

  by WingCommander in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  colossians 2:16.

  "ironically enough, i never even knew about this bible verse until i had grown up and was pomo of the watchtower cult.

  read it, then read it again.

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  slimboyfat

  It’s sure one of the harder texts for JWs to explain. Another in relation to blood is:

  Mark 7:15 Nothing outside a person can defile them by going into them. Rather, it is what comes out of a person that defiles them.”
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  Japan closes 638 Congregations!!!!! Why???

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  japan since the 1970''s has had amazing publisher increases!

  every year the number of witnesses shot up by many thousands.

  this peaked in 1998, since then the number of witnesses and congregations has continued to drop!.

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  slimboyfat

  My cagey wording was an acknowledgement that the Japanese path to secularisation is likely different than western or historically Christian countries. Christian heritage, in particular monotheism, is one component of many secularisation models, but there are other elements which apply to Japan such as industrialisation, urbanisation, differentiation, individualism, and relativism. (Steve Bruce’s model) Other models emphasise existential security and its inverse relationship with religiosity. (Pippa Norris and Ronald Inglehart) Traditional Japan would be considered a religious society from a sociological perspective, though different in form from Christian cultures. Religion is often measured by sociologists using three criteria: membership, practice, and belief. All these criteria likely take different forms in Japan, but what they will share in common with western countries is that all three measures likely show a downward trend in recent decades. This is how secularisation is generally defined and established to have taken place and or in the process of taking place.

  https://scispace.com/pdf/secularisation-r-i-p-nonsense-the-rush-hour-away-from-the-4dg611cwzp.pdf
  
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  2 Peter 1: 1 Corruption in the NWT

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  here's how this verse should read: simeon peter, a servant and apostle of jesus christ, to those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours by the righteousness of our god and savior jesus christ: - 2 peter 1: 1. here's how watchtower prints this verse:.

  simon peter, a slave and an apostle of jesus christ, to those who have acquired a faith as precious as ours through the righteousness of our god and the savior jesus christ: - nwt.

  why did watchtower change this verse by adding the word "the" ?.

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  slimboyfat

  Another blast of AI text was not warranted. I don’t know what you think you’re achieving.
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  An interesting article on the Sons apparent identification as Wisdom

  by Blotty in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  "none of the three apologists attempts to express the coming forth of .

  the word with the verbs ‘to create’ (κτίζειν) and ‘to establish’ (θεμελιοῦν) .

  from prov 8:22–23.

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  slimboyfat

  With Trinitarians words never mean what they say.

  When church Fathers repeatedly quoted scripture saying God created Wisdom/Jesus they didn’t really mean that God created Wisdom/Jesus.

  When Origen said Jesus is a second god subordinate to God he didn’t really mean he is a second god subordinate to God.

  When Tertullian said there was a time when the Son was not, he didn’t really mean there was a time when the Son didn’t exist.

  When Justin Martyr said Jesus was is angel he didn’t really mean he is an angel.

  When the Shepherd of Hermas identified Jesus with the archangel Michael it didn’t really mean that Jesus is Michael.

  When Paul said Jesus is the firstborn of all creation he didn’t mean that either.

  And when Jesus himself said the Father is greater than I what he really meant to say was that: “one of my dual natures is consubstantial with the Father whereas my other human nature is less than the Father and these two natures subsist yet do not commingle in the one person you see before you.”

  Thanks goodness for Trinitarians, otherwise we could be misled into thinking all these simply meant what they said.
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  2 Peter 1: 1 Corruption in the NWT

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  here's how this verse should read: simeon peter, a servant and apostle of jesus christ, to those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours by the righteousness of our god and savior jesus christ: - 2 peter 1: 1. here's how watchtower prints this verse:.

  simon peter, a slave and an apostle of jesus christ, to those who have acquired a faith as precious as ours through the righteousness of our god and the savior jesus christ: - nwt.

  why did watchtower change this verse by adding the word "the" ?.

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  slimboyfat

  Earnest provided a useful summary and assessment of subject.

  The AI used a lot of verbiage to try to say the opposite, unsuccessfully in my view.
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  Remember the old governing body ...pics! R.I.P.

  by Witness 007 in

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  slimboyfat

  Interesting from the chart that Ted Jaracz seems to be the longest serving GB member ever, unless Lösch overtakes him soon. And unless you count membership of the board of directors before that, in which case Fred Franz might be the longest.

  It’s neat there were coincidentally 12 GB members at the time to fit squarely on the page not to mention overtones of the apostles.
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  Remember the old governing body ...pics! R.I.P.

  by Witness 007 in

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  slimboyfat

  Peter Jackson ?

  Might be more entertaining if he was running the show 😉
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  Toasting allowed - BIRTHDAYS will soon follow!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "jehovah’s witnesses do not celebrate birthdays because we (the g.b.

  ) believe that such celebrations displease god.

  https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/birthdays/.

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  slimboyfat

  Yes, I think a number already follow this, more so with birthdays than Christmas though.
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  Toasting allowed - BIRTHDAYS will soon follow!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "jehovah’s witnesses do not celebrate birthdays because we (the g.b.

  ) believe that such celebrations displease god.

  https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/birthdays/.

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  slimboyfat

  I don’t remember anyone saying 70 changes but I do remember (vaguely) one of the GB describing a lengthy process for any change to be agreed and then announced. Ironically perhaps it was Tony Morris who said this, not sure. Or maybe Mark Sanderson or David Splane. I think David Splane was the one who made the weird comment about “we love this new teaching brothers” to some esoteric tweak they made. It’s so much more difficult to track down these phrases in the video era. (Though no doubt AI could easily search all the videos, and other useful features, shortly before they eliminate humans entirely.)