Posts by slimboyfat

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Deliberately Avoiding the "G" and "L" words in their Videos

by steve2 in

now that we have had a "sneak" preview of some of the videos for the upcoming 2018 jw regional conventions, we have opportunity to stand back and ponder their content, including their use of language - or in this case, their avoidance of certain words.

in this post, i focus on what i think is a "quaint", if not peculiar, avoidance of certain words that seems to have become a jw organization practice: they avoid use of the actual words "gay" or "lesbian" in any of the videos - even in people playing the roles of being gay- or lesbian-friendly.

a case in point is the preview of the video featuring the jw woman purchasing an item in a store where wrist bands are given away with purchases.

slimboyfat

Yes I've heard JWs say they don't use the word "gay" because it normalises homosexuality. JW apologist Firpo Carr even wrote a book: "Are 'gays' really gay?" Apparently questioning both the inate quality of homosexuality and the happiness of gay people with their "lifestyle" at the same time.

When even the Orange Order is beginning to accept gay people, you know it's game over:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-43196048

Society is changing so rapidly on this issue, either of two things must happen:

1. JWs will change their policy and accept gay people in committed relationships as full members

2. JW policy on this will become so at odds with society that they will be marginalised like the Westboro Baptists or the Klan

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From The Testament of Gideon Mack

by Charles Gillette in

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the devil knows about everybody,all the christians that ever lived by rank and serial number.

ministers,priests,nuns,choirboys,bishops,popes,baptists,quakers,lutherans,mormons,buddhists,hindus.

atheists,infidels, pagans,sun-worshipper.

slimboyfat

I just read this book. As I recall Gideon goes on to ask the devil if he really knows everyone so well as he claims, and the devil swears and says no, he doesn't need to know everyone individually, because people are predictable and everyone is basically the same. He doesn't need to go to the bother.

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They are all dead!

by Sour Grapes in

the watchtower company and the jdubs talk so nonchalantly about the year 1914, the year they say jesus became king in the heavenly kingdom.

they talk about the year like it was just a short time ago.

the invisible king began ruling in the invisible kingdom.

slimboyfat

I don't think they're all dead yet, are they? Probably still tens of thousands alive at least.

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Marriage Proposal in the Kingdom Hall

by Listener in

just when you think you've seen it all comes another interesting use of a kingdom hall.a young man serenades his girlfriend with a song (possibly a watchtower song) from the stage through a microphone and backed by recorded music.

then he steps off the stage and gets down on one knee and proposes as he pulls out a ring from his coat pocket.

the large projector screen flashes up behind them with a picture of a sapphire and diamond ring.cameras capture the joyous moment as she accepts and they lock together in a loving hug.

slimboyfat

Big Kingdom Hall.

If it was a surprise, what did she think the meeting was for? Field service? I bet they were glad to get out of that as much as anything. Unless they went on the ministry straight after.

The singing is pretty awful. Of course it's a kingdom song. Definitely in the old song book, I don't know if it made it into the new song book.

What language are they speaking?

They look quite happy anyway.

Maybe people will get in trouble for this, or maybe not. Maybe they are lightening up. If elders do get removed over this it might make an interesting news story. Nothing like the glare of publicity to highlight absurd JW practices.

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Article 'Jehovah's Witness Simulator 2018' Gives a Candid Glance at an Insular World

by AndersonsInfo in

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https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/neqqmz/jehovahs-witness-simulator-2018-gives-a-candid-glance-at-an-insular-world.

'jehovah's witness simulator 2018' gives a candid glance at an insular world.

this game only needs four minutes to make you uncomfortable.. .

slimboyfat

There's another thread, just like this one, or is it a simulation?

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When Rutherford Changed the Name to Jehovah's Witnesses

by Wild_Thing in

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slimboyfat

I believe you are correct Was An Elder Once, but I don't have a reference.

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2018 Regional Convention program available on JW.borg

by sir82 in

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https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/convention-program-2018/.

friday.

be courageous and very strong”—joshua 1:7

slimboyfat

Courage, weapon, risk, soldiers, destruction, attack... lots of military and conflict language there. I thought they had moved away from that. Maybe, now that they've been outright banned in Russia, they figure what the hell, they might as well use combative language all they like.

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Are Jehovahs Witnesses headed towards becoming one of the most controversial and talked about religions on YouTube

by UnshackleTheChains in

given the numerous videos on youtube about all the scandals and controversies of the watchtower bible and tract society.

are they headed to becoming one of the most infamous religious groups in the world for all the wrong reasons?.

slimboyfat

There are a lot more JWs than Mormons and hence more ex-JWs. Over 20 million attend the memorial each year and there are probably that number again who have left JWs, were brought up JW but never baptised, or who have some connection such as close family members.

And I do think there are a lot of Mormon and ex-Mormon videos. In particular the "I was a Mormon" videos.

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Solicitors Appontment Tomorrow - Advice Appreciated

by pale.emperor in

following up on this thread: https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5012900121935872/am-overreacting-here?page=3#!#5179106934128640.

im seeing my solicitor tomorrow to see about getting an order in place making sure any contact my daughter has with my jw family goes through me and not my ex-wife.. explained the situation briefly to the lawyer, she was asking more and more about why should i be concerned if a jw had access to my child.. i mentioned the blood issue, the shunning, the inappropriate pictures of armageddon in books/mags etc.

do you think i should bring in watchtower literature to show them what i mean?

slimboyfat

Not to mention the story about putting a tent peg through someone's head.

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Am I Overreacting Here?

by pale.emperor in

let's call him "dave".. dave: hello?.

dave: we dont have to tell you how she is.

dave: <her mother> has custody.

slimboyfat

These people are treating you as subhuman. There is no telling what they will say to your daughter about you when you are not there (that you are wicked and will die at Armageddon, is certainly possible). In fact even if he don’t say anything, the message they send by shunning you is disgusting enough. This alone, to my mind, would justify you not allowing them to spend time alone with your daughter, or at all if fact.

People should not pretend this sort of behaviour is in any way normal or acceptable. JWs will inevitably try to put the blame for the situation on the person who is shunned. Well let them try. It makes about as much sense as an overlapping generation. And will impress no one who doesn’t share their zealous devotion to the GB.