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  New OM Book replacement & Upcoming Elder School

  by doinmypart in

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  2. friends

  the organized to accomplish our ministry (om book) will be replaced on sunday march 20, 2005 with a book titled organized to do jehovah's will.

  this is confidential, so be sure to tell your relatives and friends that are still in!

  will there be any updates to the org's procedures, or just a re-hash of old policies?

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  A brief hijacking...

  Countless Witnesses use the "ministry" as a means of AVOIDING CHARITABLE RESPONSIBILITIES. Got an elderly relative you don't want to take care of? "I have to get my time in" takes precedence everytime

  My mom started auxillary pioneering 2 weeks after my cancer diagnosis. I was young (37), good natured and self-supporting. Treatment took alot out of me and I was not supposed to drive and I found cooking meals to be extremely difficult. I was in active treatment for just over a year. At the time we lived just 20 minutes away. She was always too busy to even call to see how I was doing. Had to help her study take care of husband with cancer. Can you believe it?? I lived alone and had cancer and mother was too busy helping other strangers. Made me quite angry. Angry with the elders in her cong too for holding her up as an example of righteous integrity and charactor.

  Again, sorry for the hijack. My venting comes in little bursts of steam sometimes...
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  Do you remember when you first Googled "Jehovah's Witnesses"?

  by Funchback in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i remember when i first googled "jehovah's witnesses".

  i was sick to my stomach because i feared that i was disobeying jehovah.

  although i was scared that i would find something "apostate" or "demonic", i still continued to click on different links.

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  fairchild -

  I felt the same way - went into two book stores looking for CoC. First one you had to ask an attendent to look up the info. So I left!

  Second one I could search for myself and found that it is 'out of print'.

  I still have not gotten a copy of this but found that they can ordered online at commentarypress.com.

  LOL that feeling of terror and that we will be caught...!!! Criminy. We are all grown ups!!
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  guilty or innocent???

  by cherryblossomgirl in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i lived with my aunt and uncle for ten years.

  they were witnesses and so therefore so was i. my uncle was sexually and physically abusive to me and physically abusive to my aunt.

  when my aunt and i went to the elders about the situation they turned the other cheek and made it our fault.

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  I think it is frightening.
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  Please Help!

  by whyamihere in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i dont know how to exactly word this but i am having a problem and am needed of advice!.

  my mother and i were talking and i was never intelligent or had deep information on the jw religion ever in my life.

  i was mainly a follower and thought it was the truth and never had the need to question anything as maybe some of you felt the same as i do and did.

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  I don't believe its the "truth" ... because it is was then there would be no hiding or cover ups...

  I may choose to stick with some basic generalities and see how she responds. If she tries to deny, then you might just simply say: "But there *are* cover-ups, mom. There are."

  Trouble may be that she starts shunning you rather than pulling on you to attend. That's why I would probably just start with a few generalities. Maybe also tell her that you are concerned about shunning, feel it is terribly wrong and extremely unloving and you do not want to be pushed to the point that she feels she needs to stay away from her child and grandchildren.
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  What Terms Do Jehovah's Witnesses Use To Indicate They Are A Cult?

  by minimus in

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  "the organization" is one of my favorites.

  very "cultish" expression, to me.......and you??

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  mindful

  vigilant
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  Do you remember when you first Googled "Jehovah's Witnesses"?

  by Funchback in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i remember when i first googled "jehovah's witnesses".

  i was sick to my stomach because i feared that i was disobeying jehovah.

  although i was scared that i would find something "apostate" or "demonic", i still continued to click on different links.

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  Robxy -

  I understand COMPLETELY!!

  I found this site a month ago. Wanted to read more so I had to register.

  At first my nick was: I_Dare because in my mind i was VERY daring to look here...!!!

  I changed it (thank you, Simon!!) to Aude_Sapere.

  Meaning 'Dare to Know. Dare to have knowledge/wisdom.' Welcome to the Board :-)
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  For those of us with active JW parents

  by JustTickledPink in

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  2. friends

  there seem to a commonality around here about active jw parents shunning us.. my question is: if your parents weren't a jw, do you think they would be normal, act kindly, be a real parent to you?

  or would they still be cold and callused towards you, controlling, etc.

  my thought is this, so many times i used to think i wish my mom wasn't a jw because then i thought she would be this wonderful caring mother that i could go to lunch with, share shopping days with, recipes, and we'd be close.

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  I have a hard time understanding why worshippers of a "God of love" have such strict guidelines as to when and to what extent they will dole out love to their children.

  So true.
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  What is a disfellowshipping offense?

  by M.J. in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i had a brief discussion with my wife about the practice of shunning and i asked her if the act of associating with a df'ed or "apostate" individual would get someone disfellowshipped.

  she denied that it would, saying that it was not included among the specific "disfellowshipping offenses" listed in the bible.

  yet my understanding is that there are many things that can get a jw disfellowshipped which aren't among the immoral practices specifically listed by paul in that context.

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  and then there's the issue of attitude.

  Anyone displaying an 'independent attitude' is just asking - begging!! - for trouble!

  Like if you let your conscience be your guide, you will certainly be demoted. If you discuss your rational with members, you may very well be out on your butt...
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  Post A Memorable Pic from 2004.

  by Englishman in

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  i'll start: .

  englishman.

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  Scary pic, that one...
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  What does the Watchtower gain...

  by homme perdu in

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  2. bible

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  by recruiting new members,expanding.

  is it money?

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  Aude_Sapere

  "P.S. Monroe assembly hall was practical, beautiful, and very useful..... But they sold it to high $. Then they built another 30 miles away! (with free labor, my friends were there)" DaCheech - I worked on the Monroe Assemby Hall when it was being built. LONG time ago. Where is the new one?