i like guns.
i like the feel of them.
i like the fine engineering too.
bigboi: First, the capability of the military is such nowadays that no militia of ordinary citizens can hope to resist it.
Absolutely unfounded statement. I encourage you to prove this statement. We need not discuss measures such as thermonuclear war against their own citizens, because it would not happen. Urban warfare can be waged quite admirably by a handful of insurgents who have little left to live for.
Witness, Iraq.
Respectfully,
OldSoul
i was playing monopoly tonight and thought what about a monopoly based game about the wts?
you could buy the land, build kingdom halls, sell them for profit, then on the chance cards it would be called new light and you could get things like new kingdom halls or land or bad things like the wts decided to sell your land or they are begging for money and you have to pay them 100 bucks.
you wouldnt get 200 for passing go because the wts doesnt give back.
purps: male and female pioneers
Yeah, but there would have to be a special rule about them not being allowed on the same square alone too often.
the following was forwarded to me, and i post it in its entirety, with a few edits for clarity, without comment.. ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ .
many of my friends are well aware that i'm not the slightest bit religious.
with other friends the subject has never come up - and might never have - i'm not much of a proselytizer.
And he uses a Macintosh!!!!
{insert dramatic music here}
<gasp>
i like guns.
i like the feel of them.
i like the fine engineering too.
I do not currently own a firearm. I have owned them in the past. I believe the Second Amendment could not possibly be worded more clearly.
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
We do not seem to have any difficulty at all understanding who is referred to by "the people" in this one:
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Despite the fact that there's damn all we could do if our government stopped honoring this clause of the contract, we still feel it is an important one right down to today. Here are two more examples where the meaning of "the people" is clearly understood:
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
The right of the people ... shall not be infringed. It is clear language, and an uncomfortable to read for anyone who would rather infringe on someone else's rights. But once you open that door, look at what else you risk losing. Currently, because of an armed citizenry, our government cannot go beyond certain boundaries without tilting the country into civil war.
I disagree that "we the people" would not stand a chance against our government. I am likewise certain that those who give up on their ability and right to defend themselves against their government would be the first oppressed. I believe that there are still among us many individuals for whom the statement, "Give me liberty, or give me death," rings loudly and clearly, today. I believe that if not for them, there would be very little liberty.
BTW, they aren't all Republicans. They aren't all anything. They are from every background this country has to offer.
Respectfully,
OldSoul
as a non-jw, i read with interest and amusement the thread "six million jws can't be wrong..." thread.
all great posts but as i was digesting them a thought occurred to me: the jw position is self-contradicting.
i know that's probably not a surprise to ex-jws, but i found it amusing.
Yes. Mormon's are wonderful and JWs are comical. I get it.
(the person this topic is intended for will know who he is if he sees it).
i don't know if you still come to this site, but if you happen to see this, please contact me.
i miss your friendship.
Welcome. You can post here to ya' know.
i just started doing this (blogging) and it is not unlike writing a diary put into public view.. there a zillions of these things floating around out there.
many are extremely inventive, artistic, interesting and startling.. however, most are utterly inane!.
sturgeon's law at work.
Terry: Do you blog?
Sounds very painful. Is that a euphemism for bulimarexia?
Obtusely,
OldSoul
i was wondering how some of you (ones who have been out of the org for a while) feel when you read the bible, or have you tried reading just the bible--not using the new world translation.. i still do believe in a higher being and enjoy reading the bible.
but it's a very different prospective i have on it now, my eyes have been opened and i'm reading it by itself without any wbts literature to twist the meaning of it.
i would like to quote matthew 6:15 "but if you do not forgive men their sins, your father will not forgive your sins.
Yes. I do. I don't see it the same way I used to, but I am more motivated now than ever before to talk with other people about what I find in it. My motivation is coming from the right place now and I am no longer caught up in a need to change someone else.
Respectfully,
OldSoul
we know that the society uses these forums to get the "newest light" and oftentimes head off potential disasters.
they blunted much of the un debacle within the jw community.
there are jws that scan this site too.
integ: elders get caught masturbating in kingdom hall rest room...
...and it wasn't the men's room!!!
i am a never baptized ubm.
my jw wife is unhappy that i am looking for other churches.
after careful thought and several conversations we have agreed not to treat each other from the assumption that improper motives are behind whatever either of us decide to believe.
if you catch a brother who is pretty good, he might kick your ass!
CYP,
Could happen to someone, but not to you. You know the tricks to expect, you know the diverion maneuvers to watch for. All you have to do to make any Witness look completely clueless is stick to a point and not let them leave it, with questions like, "I noticed you haven't yet answered what I asked. Did you just like what you were saying better, or is there no Scriptural answer to my question?"
On your quest for getting a religious leader to answer you thoroughly, in my opinion any respectable religious leader would want you to be convinced through your study. Responsible teachers do not tell their students the answers. JWs are not usually responsible teachers. It would be a very odd chance if you happened to snag one, in which case they would admit they didn't know the Scriptural answers. To their own basic doctrines of faith.
Respectfully,
OldSoul
