what am i missing?
why are the illegal immigrants demanding their rights?
they're illegal, they don't have the rights of an american citizen because they are not citizens.
Okay, I think I see the discrepancy, BTS:
I am speaking as a person who was ALWAYS HERE LEGALLY. I had a green card and a right to work my entire life. It took me four months *and I did it myself* to get my citizenship. I had no lawyer and it only cost $650 bucks. Here is the website that explains the process for LEGAL RESIDENTS to get their citizenship: www.uscis.gov
It sounds like you are speaking about a person who IS NOT HERE LEGALLY to begin with. MAJOR DIFFERENCE!!!
what am i missing?
why are the illegal immigrants demanding their rights?
they're illegal, they don't have the rights of an american citizen because they are not citizens.
When my daughter needed public assistance after her ex left her and their 6 week old son, they told her they couldn't do anything for her because she isn't a minority.
BULLSHIT!
what am i missing?
why are the illegal immigrants demanding their rights?
they're illegal, they don't have the rights of an american citizen because they are not citizens.
God you are soooo wrong! We had one of the best immigration lawyers in NY checking the facts for us. We know what we are doing.
Um, excuse me, but how wrong can I be when I DID IT? Who says your lawyer is the "best"? Him? Fire his ass and do it yourself. That's how I did it. You don't need a lawyer to become a citizen and anyone who falls for a lawyer saying you do is, well, ......
As far as getting other family members into the US, well, now is probably not the best time to try. Concern yourself with yourself and then worry about the fam later.
what am i missing?
why are the illegal immigrants demanding their rights?
they're illegal, they don't have the rights of an american citizen because they are not citizens.
For him to do it legally it would take my husband to apply for citizenship (which would take several years)
Once I finally decided to become a citizen it took 4 WHOLE MONTHS !!!
And it only cost me $650 bucks.
Check your facts.
Besides, you don't have to be a citizen to sponsor a family member to come to the US.
what am i missing?
why are the illegal immigrants demanding their rights?
they're illegal, they don't have the rights of an american citizen because they are not citizens.
JWoods, yes. it would be the same thing. But pointless and expensive. This law is stupid and it isn't drafted the way you are phrasing this anyway. So your point is mute. The point of enforcement should be at the point of hiring. Not at the point of some whimsical stop by a cop. We have enough cops soaking up our budget as it is.
What is wrong with anything else I am proposing? Isn't it a much better, humane, constitutional way of dealing with the problem? Why/why not?
what am i missing?
why are the illegal immigrants demanding their rights?
they're illegal, they don't have the rights of an american citizen because they are not citizens.
JWoods,
Isn't one of the motivations behind this law the claim that illegal aliens come across the border to supply the demand for illegal drugs? If we legalize drugs and funnel all the money wasted on the "War on Drugs" into rehabilitation, we would kill two birds with one stone.
Secondly, for legitimate jobs, a person has to provide proof of legal status to work. There is already a system in place. It's a matter of enforcement.
For day labor jobs, I will give you an example of how it would be done: I have a friend who works for the government, has high security clearance and is given polygraphs regularly. He will not allow ANYONE (Black, brown, yellow or white) to work on his yard unless they show him proof of their legal status to work. So this is not discriminatory because it applies to EVERYONE.
If all citizens who wanted any work done were required to do what employers are required to do, the jobs would disappear and the incentive to be here illegally would be gone.
So that dad of four who is here illegally and is making $8500 per month tax free by mowing lawns would be out of a job and guess what, now a legal resident or citizen can market their own service and make it grow, pay taxes, etc.
That's what I'm talking about.
what am i missing?
why are the illegal immigrants demanding their rights?
they're illegal, they don't have the rights of an american citizen because they are not citizens.
If you assume that every singe Anglo supports the Bill (Which they don't --AZ is almost a dead 50/50 split between Liberals and Conservatives) and forget about African American, Native American, and Asian American segments of the population entirely, support for the Bill is still far higher than the Anglo population could sustain by itself.
The problem is that we humans are selfish and lots of us ignorant. I can see the browns whose jobs have been taken away or payscales lowered being angry and in favor of this law. But little do they think about the fact they might not have their own citizenship had it not been for an anchor baby several generations removed back. Or the fact that this land was once Mexico itself. What you say doesn't surprise me. It still doesn't make it right.
The right thing to do is to make it less attractive for illegals to come in the first place. Get rid of their access to jobs and make drugs legal. Problem solved.
Instead of free welfare, we could provide people with the jobs left vacant that supposedly "no American will do". Heck! I think many out of work men would appreciate taking over the lawn routes left vacant if it were illegal to hire undocumented workers to even do day labor such as that. I don't believe this would be an inhumane or unconstitutional way of handling the problem. Corporatists wouldn't like it because they would now be forced to pay fair wages and left with no one to exploit (but I'm sure they'll find a way to do it).
Democrats might not be thrilled with the prospect of losing some potential votes but then we should get on the ball and make labor what it once was: the foundation of the middle class.
what am i missing?
why are the illegal immigrants demanding their rights?
they're illegal, they don't have the rights of an american citizen because they are not citizens.
My considered opinion is that looking after the interests of our own citizens is the lesser evil. That is what we have contracted our government to do on our behalf. And individually, our duty towards those in our own country is of a higher priority towards fellow citizens than it is to foreigners.
My individual brown skin must not be included as one of your "felow citizens" of high priority. Because my brown ass would not appreciate being pulled over on my way to work and I certainly don't consider my interests a "lesser evil."
This law is bullcrap in that there are other things that can be done. People are acting like this is their one and only choice. When the obvious answer is to fine and put out of business any employer, contractor, day labor .... who puts illegals to work. This is the only HUMANE way to handle the problem. Without jobs, they have no incentive to uproot themselves and come in the first place. And then my husband can make what he deserves to make without the downward-wage-pressure.
Anyone advocating anything less than this has an ulterior motive. Period.
what am i missing?
why are the illegal immigrants demanding their rights?
they're illegal, they don't have the rights of an american citizen because they are not citizens.
I don't like this stuff any better than anybody else - but I generally support the law enforcement people who are just trying to do their jobs.
Law enforcement people NEVER misuse their power. NEVER EVER EVER!
despite my post count im not exactly new here.
i used to post und lost_light06 on the old board.
anyhow, i received this email from a jw family member.
Alexander Hyssop identified the RCC as Babylon the Great.
Funny thing is that Watchtower will not get their $$$ if such a law is passed.
I would be pissed off if my income was taxed for any church!!!
