Posts by BluesBrother

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Why did Jehovah choose the leaders of the WTS who were scripturaly apostate false prophet sinners ?

by Finkelstein in

quite the contravening question to contemplate for any self avowed devoted jws, which no doubt takes some uncomfortable thinking to consider.. yes back in 1919 the then president of the jws j. rutherford proclaimed that the organization (ibsa, jws) had been selectively chosen by jesus for their unique preaching and evangelical work.. there had already been a proclamation by the past leader of the (wts) ibsa c. russell that he was the faithful slave doing the lords work, will and purpose, but his professing doctrines were also false bible interpretations based upon the theology of pyramidology.. might it be that these men made these proclamations out of the intent of self validating themselves and the literature that they had published and were trying to proliferate ?

making these kind of claims was easy since there was no higher governing body to evaluate these men's endeavors from a theological standing, the american government had opened the door for any individual's self expression of a religious nature.

so anyone in that country could build up their own religoius following unimpeded, even more so if that religion was christian based.. so the real critical question remains how or why would jesus pick these men when their doctrines were so obviously false and probably devised more so from a commercialization agenda ?.

BluesBrother

For me, that is still an open question....” Yes, why would he? “

A WT answer would be because they had honest hearts and were seeking the correct doctrines although they had not yet worked it all out.

As my dub wife told me this morning, they had already the truth about the soul, they had ‘turned the hose on hell’ .... oh and I was told they knew 1914. .......after all these years I know when to speak up and when it is wiser to keep silent.

[edit..to say that I love her and we have a great relationship, and have both learned to give and take, over the years]

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MUCH CLOSER LOOK -yes let’s take one

by Brainfloss in

mcl responded in part, in an earlier post about the hypocrisy in religion even the true religion.

making dumb guesses about god's cryptic prophecies makes them foolish and indiscreet- not false prophets who claim god gave them the message.. two questions—.

1) what is the “true religion‘s” definition of a prophet?.

BluesBrother

The WTS claims not to be prophets, but there is no doubt that they have made predictions... What is the difference ? I have just looked up the difference and it seems , according to dictionaries, that

A prophecy is tributed to a divine revelation as if God spoke to the prophet for him to pass on to followers.

Predictions on the other hand are human calculations using the information available to say what is likely to happen. E.g. a sports pundit will predict the result of a horserace or football match.

Now the Society has said, in 1920, “Millions Now Living Will Never Die”

in 1969 “ If you are young, you will never grow old in this system “

we all know about 1975

around about the 1970 - 1974 they wrote that the preaching work would be completed during that century.

Now, what do you think? Are they failed predictors or false prophets?

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Doctors treating Corona virus with blood Plasma from survivors

by Witness 007 in

just read article today blood plasma from recovered corona patients to be transfused into the seriously ill to see if antibodies in the blood can help.. i guess if your a witness you can just pray and write your will..

BluesBrother

They could change the rules of course but the clear "decision of the Governing Body" is that the word blood includes whole blood, red cells, white cells, plasma and platelets.

Violating this can lead to disfellowshipping, or involuntary disassociation.

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New York Times: ‘People Would Be So Receptive Right Now, and We Can’t Knock on Doors.’

by AndersonsInfo in

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/19/us/politics/coronavirus-jehovahs-witnesses.html.

the pandemic has put a stop to the activities of one of the nation’s most visible religious groups, jehovah’s witnesses.. read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/19/us/politics/coronavirus-jehovahs-witnesses.html.

BluesBrother

"People would be so receptive right now"

Oh, I doubt that, around here anyway. It is true they hate the virus &are scared of catching it but to relate it to Bible prophecy is never considered. Anyway, nobody wants to talk . They just avoid conversation. That much has been dinned into us by the government.

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2 Letters Arrived--English and Spanish!

by Atlantis in

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2020-04-15 english encouragement for elderly.

https://docdro.id/chmzmpj.

2020-04-17 spanish .

BluesBrother

Well, of the oldies I know well enough to hear their honest comments, they are not feeling "vigourous and fresh" as the letter puts it. Instead I hear grumbles about the Org. How they feel left behind in the techie world they have to embrace, the changed doctrines, lack of help from elders.... etc

Is this being sent to the cong? It would better sent to the old ones individually. Easily done, just get the congregation to organize it

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Epicurean Paradox

by Tahoe in

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BluesBrother

We all know the J W answer to the above question and ,like me , have stated it many times on people's doorsteps.

We can either accept that of allow the above "paradox " to turn us into atheists. Nobody can come up with a better answer so we either accept it , or something like it , or not ......it is up to you.

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MANUAL!--2020-04 SFL.

by Atlantis in

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2020-04-addendum letter.. https://docdro.id/n0hm6tg.

2020-04 shepherd the flock of god elder manual.

https://docdro.id/llechtz.

BluesBrother

Excellent ! Thank you Atlantis and Petra

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2020-04-10 Congregation Donations by Electronic Funds Transfer!

by Atlantis in

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friends

well as usual, the watchtower wants to make sure the rank & file keep the money coming in.

even if the jw's have nothing to eat.. 2020-04-10--congregation donations by electronic funds transfer.

https://docdro.id/himg31q.

BluesBrother

Is it really safe to enter the cong. Bank a/c details on their website? I am assuming that that part of it will be a secured site but now that everyone knows that there is financial information on there........ I hope they don’t get hacked .

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A perfect world

by wasone in

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the movie.

released in 1993. i only recently saw on streaming channel axis tv.

it stars kevin castner (butch) as an escaped convict who befriends a young witness boy( philip) who he has taken hostage.

BluesBrother

I do remember seeing it , some years back.. I also recall once ,nearer the time, when the film came in conversation with some dubs. They looked at us shocked, and said that they would not watch it!

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How do you think this covid-19/corona virus pandemic will affect the way J.W.'s view shunning?

by StoneWall in

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we all know that the watchtower (jehovah's witnesses) say the reason for disfellowshipping is to protect the congregation from some uncleanness or threat.so they "quarantine" (shun) those they perceive can spread information that does not agree fully with their teachings/doctrines.it's almost like they want to liken it to a real disease by calling opposers "mentally diseased", "threat" etc.

will the current state of affairs in the world regarding this pandemic strengthen their cause/argument in favor of isolating within their ranks?

i can visualize them in the near future even having parts at the hall or assemblies pointing back to this pandemic and saying something along the lines of "brothers what do you think would happen if we would not have quarantined and stayed away from any that were infected?

BluesBrother

It will have no effect longterm, or shorttem come to that.. Yes it's likely some assemblyspeaker may use it as an illustration, so what?

The system of d/f ing and shunning is in place and will remain.