These days, there is so much American politics and unrelated stuff on here that I am glad for any topic that is actually discussing J W s or the Watchtower Society.
BluesBrother
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What JW Subjects Interest You The Most On This Site? What Doesn’t??
by minimus ini like subjects that delve into the history of the religion and proofs that the witnesses are not the true religion.
i’m not so much into apologists saying we need to go to meetings, especially if the poster looks like a scammer trying to get ex jws going.
what subjects interest you ?
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Since Myself and our sons left the JW cult, My wife has been M.I.A has a mom and wife
by goingthruthemotions ini would like to get some feed back from pomo's who's spouse is still pimi.
since myself and our son's left the jw cult.
my wife has been m.i.a has a mom and a wife.
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BluesBrother
I am well out , mentally at least and my wife is definitely still in. When I resigned and dropped the faith I recognized what a blow that was for her. I tried to make it up by being a decent husband and never fulfilling the stereotype of "worldly men"
This is not to criticise or blow my own trumpet but you say " I have told her many times that if she is not happy she should leave and go find her JW elder so she could be happy"........Is that ghe best way to win her round ?
True, I have made comprises. On a Sunday I am willing to accompany her to the hall , if she goes. I have helped her with going to conventions . I know that if I had nothing to do with it then we would have nothing and life would be hell for us both.
It is worth sitting through a crap talk to have the benefit of a calm and enjoyable home life. Funnily enough things are better between us now than ever they were when I was an elder and always having to do something.
Everyone is different I know, but that is my experience. All the best.
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Genesis 1:16 and apologists- vegetation before the Sun?
by joey jojo ingen 1: 11 says: .
11 then god said, “let the earth sprout [j]vegetation, [k]plants yielding seed, and fruit trees on the earth bearing fruit according to [l]their kind [m]with seed in them”; and it was so.
12 the earth produced [n]vegetation, [o]plants yielding seed according to [p]their kind, and trees bearing fruit [q]with seed in them, according to [r]their kind; and god saw that it was good.
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BluesBrother
I agree that it is no good trying to come up with fanciful ideas trying to harmonise the order of creation with what we know today. The comments made in the past by the WTS are indeed desperate.
I am not a literal Genesis creationist but I still hold to the basic view that “in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth “ . Call me what you like but ,to me, that makes more sense than a godless abiogenesis.......
I view Genesis chapter one as a simplified parable, not a scientific document.
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Memorial this year?
by carla inhow are they handling the memorial this year?
zoom or open kh's?
how do they reject the wine & bread in their own home?
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BluesBrother
March 27th if you wish to observe it
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Watchtower Changes Position On Sodomites
by Sea Breeze inwhy all the flipflops?.
1886 sodomites resurrected = yes!“thus our lord teaches that the sodomites did not have a full opportunity; and he guarantees them such opportunity… it implies their awakening, their coming from the tomb.”—the divine plan of the ages, 1886, pp.
110-111 (view pdf of these pages).
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BluesBrother
I found nothing more recent in Watchtower on line. The 1988 QFR is confusing. It says they are in Sheol and that those in Sheol get a resurrection. So how come they don’t?
I mean Lot lived in the city prior to being dragged out ,and his extended family , it could not be a blanket judgement on all.
Recently Steven Lett said that homosexuals would return in the res. With the same desires , so how does that work?
That WT above says that us who reject the J W message get the same fate, just for failing to be convinced by the WTS... are we as bad as perverted rapists?
All goes to show that the WTS knows nothing
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The JW cult creates pessimistic personalities in all the PIMI congregants is my opinion
by goingthruthemotions ini am not saying all jw congregants are pessimistic, but i would go as far to say all pimi jw congregants are pessimistic.. why do i say this, my wife is my measuring stick.
she has barely an optimistic bone in her being.
she will only focus on the bad parts of anything.
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BluesBrother
Without a negative view of things, the J W Organisation would not exist.
How many times did you hear on a Thursday night “ We are looking for those who are ‘sighing and crying over world conditions, don’t waste your time with those who are self satisfied with their lot”
I take as proof their application of 2 Timothy 3 to our times .....the one that goes
”Men will be lacking affection,disobedient to parents , disorderly, lovers of pleasure “ etc.
(quoted from memory) If that is not a negative pessimistic attitude I don’t know what is. I never liked using that scripture.
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Ministry school
by road to nowhere inwhat is the purpose?
the skits are not real.
i have been assigned a reading again.
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BluesBrother
Ministry School?
They did away with that years ago 🤔
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“Do not gaze about!”
by slimboyfat inso many changes in the 2013 nwt seem needless and spoil familiar phrases.
take isaiah 41:10 in the nwt classic rendering:.
do not be afraid, for i am with you.
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BluesBrother
There are many instances where I prefer the reading in the NWT that we grew up with, to the modern revised edition. It seems simplified and if they are true to form was designed more for ease of translation than accuracy.
I particularly dislike the revision to Micah 6: 8 , as noted above, and the wording that Jesus rode a donkey rather than an ass . That may just be me but it just seems wrong.
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C T Russell and His Numerology.
by Lost in the fog ini came across this older wt which i assume c t russell wrote the article.
unlike modern practitioners of numerology who calculate a value for each letter of the alphabet, russell simply adds up the number of letters in each word to arrive at [horror of horrors] 666.. and he lists there on the page each one of the organisations that must accordingly be part of the great harlot with 18 letters [in english] in their titles, because 18 is clearly 6+6+6 or 666!
strangely he hasn't stopped to think about another possibility for an 18 letter title.
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BluesBrother
So, the image was made in 1846? I wonder what that was?
Jesus knew in advance that English would be the prevailing language of our times and provided a numerical code that rested on English, and modern spelling? Neat.
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Further thoughts on the new media Center project
by nowwhat? inthe organization figured out that a big building project gives the rank and file something to be engaged in and excited about.
it distracts them from their hamster wheel life.
and it buys them another 5 years until the next big thing.
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BluesBrother
So Ramapo is the new big thing. I wonder if all those buildings will materialise or will it be cut back, like Chelmsford?
The opening segment of that video describes the “appreciation the brothers have” for the Videos. All I hear are grumbles about how infantile they are