Posts by BluesBrother

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Baptized pre 25 years old

by Fadeaway1962 in

saw this on the bbc and thought you should see it:is 25 the new cut-off point for adulthood?

- http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24173194.

i was baptized in my early 20s so now realize was too young mentally to understand the full impact of that decision and the long term impact on my life.. the org should stop putting pressure on young ones to get baptized..

BluesBrother

Studies such as this could have a profound effect on the way in which society treats young people. It is saying that our brains are not fully developed until we are 25- 30.

So should we allow younger ones to marry? Drive on the roads ? Send them to war? What about the call, by some, to lower the voting age to 16?

This is exactly what have other septuagerians say about youth culture and the fondness of society to favour youth.

NB .. to follow the o/p point.... I cannot see the WTS changing their attitude toward youth baptism. They need all the numbers they can get and have no regard for the ones who regret it later.

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Public Talk Outlines!

by Atlantis in

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current public talk outlines.

blank page between each talk.. .

https://docdro.id/w209l0s.

BluesBrother

Browsing through it is evident that, whatever the theme, they all follow the same pattern.

A few minutes setting out the subject, a few more applying that subject to life today ...then the body of it telling the audience what they have to do. Whatever the theme is the talk is always saying pray hard, keep busy, follow directions, be good and gain life in paradise....

You could mix and match and nobody would notice.

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May 2020 Watchtower They Admit, they don't know

by Listener in

they'll write pages and pages of stuff and yet they don't have any idea.. here's a paragraph from their latest speculations on future events, bolding is mine.. a prophecy recorded by ezekiel gives some insight into what may happen during the last days of the king of the north and the king of the south.

if we view the prophecies of ezekiel 38:10-23; daniel 2:43-45; 11:44–12:1; and revelation 16:13-16, 21 as speaking about the same time period and events, it appears that we can expect the following developments.. that's an awful lot of assumptions to make.

what they've done is picked out various scriptures from different parts of the bible and now state that they may or may not be talking about the same events.

BluesBrother

The time was when I could tell you all about how the activities of Elijah and Elisha prefigured in prophetic pattern the activities of the anointed J W’s at different periods in their history. We spent weeks on end studying how the work of Jeremiah and assistant Baruch also prefigured the “ministry” of twentieth century....

What a waste of time that was! .....only to be told by the same book publishers in recent times that it was all B/S. ....if I hadn’t worked that out for myself. 🤔

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May WT study edition: full of king of North and South / Rusia

by Gorbatchov in

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jw.org is on collision course with russia.

the may wt study edition is full of prophesy related to the time of the end and what we have read so much in isaiah and jeremia bookstudy publications.. they found their enemy again.

jw.org needs enemy's to exist.

BluesBrother

Plenty of mileage in this issue for debate. One fundamental point is .... What is this Anglo American World Power ? Do you see it in the news? Do the two nations act together as one?

There may have been a duality during World Wars One and Two, but since then I cannot see it. A few points off the top of my head :

They did unite militarily to invade Iraq, although a lot of Brits were against the action.

They are both in NATO and they do have a “special relationship “ , but this does not stop disagreements

They cannot agree on the deportation of wanted suspects of crimes

There is not a special trade agreement in place , although this has been suggested, post Brexit.

Most citizens of Both Britain and the USA would be annoyed at the suggestion that they were merely a part of the other’s world power.

I have not seen any references to the existence of such a thing apart from the WTS. I contend that it does not exist and has not existed since at least 1945 .....

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I found an old pamphlet in one of my JW books. About the Hoxsey cure

by JimmyYoung in

i found a pamphlet in one of my old bound vol.

a 1969 awake, that had a pamphlet from a senator who gave a speech on the hoxsey cure.

i know of several jws who went to mexico and got this treatment.

BluesBrother

"I know so many who would go to the BS chiropractor. This quackery does not only mean cracking bones it gets into Kinesiology which is crazy ass BS. Acupuncture which I always found funny because its a Chinese spiritual load of crap. I went with several JWs in the 70s to a chiropractor who would prescribe drinking a quart of salt water to crap your guts out and do enemas. It was supposed to detoxify"

I once knew a "sister" who was a qualified kinesiology practitioner . The Wt published an article saying that it was dubious and maybe demonic. Overnight her client base among the dubs plummeted. She rebuilt her business though. Her elders never called her out.

Personally I have had acupuncture. It did nothing for me but what I had was not "spiritual". Wife and I regulayly have chiropractic treatment, nothing wrong in bone adjustment. That has done us good.

There are loads of people spending shedloads of money on health foods and off-book treatments ,not just dubs . Certainly, in the past at least, they were susceptible to it due to a miss trust of mainstream medicine ,sparked by the blood issue.

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Hello Trolley JW's...

by The Fall Guy in

...at 1 peter 3:15 it says that if someone asks a christian about their christian hope, they should always be ready to explain it - with mildness & deep respect.

may i ask you about just one belief which jw's have?.

jw's have been instructed that god & jesus personally selected mr. rutherford and several of his associates as the first 'faithful slave' 101 dalmations years ago, in 1919. .

BluesBrother

Who is this Mr. Rutherford that you speak of?

That is so much the response that you will get from modern, young JWs. For them their "theocratic history " began in yr 2000 , being the year that the online library was began. Anything prior to that is dead history and irrelevant.

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Evil Wind Chimes

by Sea Breeze in

i remember going door to door in the late 60's with my mother as a 5 or 6 year old.

one time she caught me looking at the wind chimes on a porch.

she told me they had pagan origins, were evil, and were somehow connected to demons.

BluesBrother

I used to avoid wind chimes because they had a pagan origin............Now I avoid wind chimes because they are an irritating nuisance once the novelty has wirn off. A past neighbour had one once....drove me nuts going tinkle tinke all day

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How Fear is Weaponized

by Sea Breeze in

fear is used by politicians, marketeers, social scientists, military psy-ops tacticians and just about anyone who wants to manipulate or destabilize another.

to illustrate, look at this 1964 political ad by pres.

johnson against barry goldwater:.

BluesBrother

The older you get in life, the closer you are to dying. Even old dubs now recognize that . The concept of living forever without experiencing death has now disappeared, except for the young.

What happens at death, where do we go? Nobody knows . Shakespeare called it the "undiscovered country" ((Hamlet).. 400 years later we know no more.

In my later years now, is dearh to be feared? No... I don't want to linger into a lonely, painful miserable old age. Lets go while life is still enjoyable.

Yes , we myst try to enjoy every day that God gives us , before:

" The silver cord is removed and the golden bowl is crushed.................then the dust returns to the earth, just as it happened to be" . Ecclesiastes 12.

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Unwritten, congregational 'rules'

by Thetruthhurts in

what were some of yours?

the big one in our hall was no frontal hugs!

these were generally thought of as inappropriate, only side hugs should be given between sisters and brothers.

BluesBrother

I have to say tnat most ( not all) of these would be news to me.... Are you sure we were in the same religion ?

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Witness fancy dress party huge fails!

by Witness 007 in

so some special pioneers in our cong thought it would be awesome to spice up our boring country town lives with a witness fancy dress party!!

wow what could go wrong?

it was 1993 well one pioneer wanted to out do every one so he turned up in drag as a ballerina in full bad make up...some had costumes with guns swords knives...i mean a cowboy does not have a watchtower in his holster!

BluesBrother

I guess fancy dress is something that is “just not done” among dubs.... I vaguely recall a C/o recounting an experience of one where things got out of hand with “elders dressed up as women!” ( shudder) . That does sound gross....

Nb. I felt like I was in fancy dress on a Sunday, wearing a white shirt and suit...

re Murder Mystery evenings, an elder of my acquaintance and his wife used to go to these at a local hotel , I guess it had food as well. They enjoyed it, and nothing was said to him.