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  If I could meet C T Russell, I would ask him.......

  by ozziepost in

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  it has often been said that the jw organisation of today is far, far different to the organisation that ct russell set up, both in beliefs and teachings as well as administration.

  i've even heard it said that if ctr were alive today, he would be disfellowshipped for all manner of 'offences' as proscribed by the modern-day wts!

  so, if it were possible for you to ask ctr just one question, what would it be?

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  Forscher

  Brother Russell, why didn't you disfellowship Rutherford when you kicked him out of Bethel?
  
  I know a similiar question was proposed, but I think that is what we all should ask since Rutherford turned the WTBTS into a life-wrecker. The rest is rather minor stuff.
  
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  Jehovah is a misspelled Hebrew word for "lord"

  by biddie in

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  did you know that jehovah is really a miss-spelled word in hebrew from the word adonai in hebrew?.

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  Forscher

  Excuse me. That was Yehoshua, not Jehoshua.
  
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  Jehovah is a misspelled Hebrew word for "lord"

  by biddie in

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  did you know that jehovah is really a miss-spelled word in hebrew from the word adonai in hebrew?.

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  I find the thought that the masoretes replaced the correct vowels with the vowels for adonai wierd when one thinks of what they were trying to do by inventing the vowel points in the first place. It seems that they were not real great champions of tradition. They were in conflict with the Rabbis of their day over some of their teachings. The Rabbis had a habit of reading the Hebrew scriptures and mispronouncing key words conflicted with their thoughts in a way to make the scriptures say whatever they wanted them to say. So the masoretes decided to do something about it. They devised the vowel point system and included it in the manuscripts they produced so that there would be no doubt as to what the correct pronounciation was. Does it make sense that they would change the vowels for the tetragammaton just to legitimize a rabbanical tradition? It just doesn't make sense to me that they would.
  
  When we look at compound words which include the divine name, such as, Jehonadab, Jehu, Joshua (in Hebrew Jehoshua), the vowel points are consistent across the board with those used in the tetragrammaton. Do we see any scholar proposing that they did the same thing with those words to keep the divine name from being pronounced? I haven't seen it.
  
  By the way, although I am not fluent in Hebrew, I do speak it. And in listening to several dialects spoken (there are at least two, Sephardic and ashkenasic, from Spain and Eastern Europe.) I have noticed the sound represented by the English "J" present in one. Though it didn't seem to be associated with the letter yod, it was there.
  
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  By the way, there is a reason why I often post and then don't get to respond promptly if ever. We have only one computer in my home connected to the net which, of course, must be shared among the whole family. So my time is often limited and I try to get a look at as much of the forum as I can in the time I have. So the occasions that I can stick around and interact are fairly rare. And maybe that's to the good considering what happened the last time I was able to stick around.
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  ...trying to track down the JW core doctrines

  by jgnat in

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  this is what i've concluded.. there are 104 questions the jw baptismal candidate must answer.

  by comparison, a baptist dunker asks no more than five.

  orthodox christians follow the nicene creed.

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  Forscher

  Nice comment Justin.
  When it comes to core doctrines, I think it can be said that the for the JW the "faithful and discrete Slave" doctrine is the only truly core belief. Since they accept it as a given that the WTBTS has the authority to define truth, then whatever the FDS says is truth, period. That pretty much makes ANY other teaching pliable and dependent on the mood of the Governing body.
  Over on the Bible Student forum, the administrator, RR144, once asked what the JWs there would do if the Watchtower came out one day with an article declaring the Trinity to be official doctrine. To a man the practicing JWs on the forum said that they'd consider it "New Light". In other words they would accept it without question. I think that shows just how pliable JW beliefs really are.
  
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  ONCE MORE for STEV and others who espouse historical-grammatical method

  by Nate Merit in

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  use that brain of yours stev.

  they didnt interpret the bible that way stev.

  "i think those are good questions to ask no matter what book is being read.".

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  Hey there Nate!
  
  I haven't entered this debate because you have a point about the use that Paul and others used the scriptures. It doesn't mean that they didn't believe the stories to be true, they just simply lifted their citations out of context in a way that many today would consider dishonest. Since nobody today can credibly argue that they are inspired, some sort of objective standard has to be recognized or folks will go off in all sorts of bizzare directions of Biblical exegisis like liberal theologians do when they try to impose materialistic philosophy on the scriptures. The historical-grammatical method has its weaknesses, but it does impose a certain discipline on the subject.
  
  
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  Im so mad------------

  by vitty in

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  -----------------my husband likes to go to bed early between 10 and 10.30 pm.

  he gets up early so i dont mind, but he wants me to go with him.

  sometimes i dont but tonight i did,cos he hates going by himself ahhhh.

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  Forscher

  I vote with the folks who recommend a sleep study and cpap machine. I got mine nine years ago and would strangle anybody who tries to take it away!
  
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  How Did You Feel When You Were Passed Up For A "Privilege"?

  by minimus in

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  the watchtower thrives on the pecking order.

  who's in line next to "be used"?

  who can we allow to "handle the microphones and mow the lawn"?

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  Finally said it better than me. At one point I was the only Brother not on the servant/elder body in my congregation. Yet I was doing the sound, magazines, asistant bookstudy conductor for an isolated group, and other things because nobody could be bothered to do their jobs. I was told that since I was single, and the Bible said that only "married" men could positions in the congregation, I couldn't be appointed as a ministerial servant. I could have all the work, but no position.
  
  Six months after I got married, I was relieved of all my priviledges because the Circuit Overseer was insisting that they stop dicking around and recommend me. It seemed he was of the position that if I had so much work and did it faithfully, then they had to appoint me. Their answer was to relieve me without even the courtesey of a hearing with me or notice. I simply walked into the Hall one night and was informed by the MSs that they were no longer allowed to use me. I found out why later.
  
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  Love & Affection Shown Between Charles Taze Russell and Judge JF Rutherford

  by West70 in

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  i am posting this for the consideration of those who "assume" and "rumor" that charles taze russell and j.f.

  rutherford were no longer friends in 1916. .

  this article by judge j. f. rutherford was published in the december 1, 1916 issue of the watch towe magazine.

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  Rutherford would've said anything on that occasion that he though would've ingratiated him to the others.
  
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  Well today is the day

  by outoftheorg in

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  today at 3 pm i will take donna to the hospital for her examination.she is putting up a good front but i can tell that she is really scared about the possible outcome.. being a nurse for years, one gathers up a lot of knowledge and she does know a lot about the body and its failures.. she is scared and i am terrified.

  her three sons and family will be there also.

  so i won't be alone.. my few children in this area are still jw's and do not give a crap about me or donna being ill.. so they won't be there.

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  I have an old friend who is dying of liver cancer. So you have my sympathy for your situation. The sadness I feel can't really compare with what you feel due to the loved one of yours who is afflicted with that damned disease. So I am at a loss of what to say to comfort you in your time of need. Just know that I send my love to you and your wife.
  
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  JW 's intervened in law-making process

  by FinnishInfo in

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  .. in finland.

  is that allowed?

  representative of finnish jehovah's witnesses has been for years in committee, which is set by ministry of education.

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  Forscher

  I know a Witness who sat on a local committee mandated by state law to decide what would be taught in the school's sex-ed curriculum.
  
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