I am sorry I didn't exclude you when I made my post Alomst Atheist. Your point about anybody being so sure of their views that they sound just like the article, no matter whether they are Copnservative or liberal, Fundie or materialist, is one I agree with.
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HOW TO THINK LIKE A FUNDY
by Reluctant Buddha inplanning a career in online christian fundamentalist apologetics?
how about the exciting world of young-earth creationism?
witnessing to, and debating with, atheists and other hellbound unsaved sinners on the internet can be hard work, so you need to familiarise yourself with the tried and tested methods used by fundies all around the world.
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I can't stand it so I must post this creationist respond if you can
by skyman ini can't stand it i got to post.
the grand canyon actually disprove creationist because granit rock is the toughest of rocks found on earth.
the grand canyon has areas filled only with granit rock.
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Forscher
Ahhh! nice to see you have graced us with your presence Rex. I am afraid I haven't seen enogh of you to understand the animosity of Satanus and others. Have they just simply lumped you into the "Fundie" catagory like some of them like to do with me? Or what?
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A Morbid Question: Who Could Die That Would Crush You???
by minimus infor me, it would be my daughter.
my only child.
a married woman---but always still my little girl.
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No question about it, my wife.
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I can't stand it so I must post this creationist respond if you can
by skyman ini can't stand it i got to post.
the grand canyon actually disprove creationist because granit rock is the toughest of rocks found on earth.
the grand canyon has areas filled only with granit rock.
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I can't say I diagree Skyman. If the rock bed was entirely sedimentary, or of an igneous rock of a certain type, then the man might have a point. But you mention Granite, a dense igneous type which is a horse of a different color. Now, it could've been buckled in order for it to be raised. Some of the separation could be due to that. But that is only theorectical. A really thorough survey would have to be done to determine just how much of the separation could be due to such a cause. I seriously doubt THAT thorough a survey has ever been done (one would have to be deliberately looking for that) and I doubt it will ever be done. So your conclusion has to be accepted unless a creditable survey shows otherwise.
One scientist I know of says much the same thing that you mentioned. But the example he uses to prove his point is observed phenomenon around Mt. St. Helens. But that occured in newly laid pyroclastic rock, a rock so different from granite that it is like comparing apples and oranges. If all the igneous deposits in the Grand Canyon were pyroclastic, he might have a point. But you tell me they are not. So his point is just doesn't hold water. I have to accept that absent, proof to the contrary.
I touched on the other possiblity for a younger age for the Grand Canyon. During the Great Flood the earth's crust buckled. Causing the Granite and other deposits to separate and rise. The river, which used to flow through under trememdous pressure and was fiiled with grit, smoothed out the sharp edges over the last four thousand years giving a much older appearance. That is a theory which can fit what is observed. However, a thorough survey to determine the validity of that theory would have to be done. Until then, it remains as a speculative theorem and nothing more.
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You might be a shining one if ..
by Satanus inheh heh.
what do ya think?
what have you noticed shining one doing in order to dodge the tough questions, ignore good answers, etc?.
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Okay Satanus. Be a goood little kitty!
(the eyes on your avatar look like a cat's to me [smile])
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Gotta come clean
by dinah ini am "wasblind" from pathways and e-watchman.
i chose another name here in case it wasn't the right place.
also, i have recognized a few of you.. i would post my story, but i've moved past it---for the most part.
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Welcome aboard Dinah!
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Do you have a "Confidante"?
by JH in.
do you have a person, thats very close to you that you can reveal almost anything, your joys pains, just about anything to?.
or, do you keep all your worries inside and deal with every emotion you have by yourself?.
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Forscher
Well, my wife is the foremost one. Nobody on this forum yet, though I've found one possibility. I'll just see what comes of it.
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I can't stand it so I must post this creationist respond if you can
by skyman ini can't stand it i got to post.
the grand canyon actually disprove creationist because granit rock is the toughest of rocks found on earth.
the grand canyon has areas filled only with granit rock.
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Forscher
Triple A has a point about the buckling of the earth's crust being a potential cause of the rock formation you mention Skyman. As I mentioned earlier, I don't know enough about the strata there to do any more than speak in generalities.
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I can't stand it so I must post this creationist respond if you can
by skyman ini can't stand it i got to post.
the grand canyon actually disprove creationist because granit rock is the toughest of rocks found on earth.
the grand canyon has areas filled only with granit rock.
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Forscher
I have no problem with an old earth. Remember that Genesis first tells us that God created the heavens and the earth. Then it goes into the preparation of the earth for man. The "let light be" and all that stuff could easily be from the perspective of the earth itself. Assuming that the earth was shrouded in dense smoke from all the volcanic activity prior to that preparation, the Genesis story could easily represent how one at the surface would've viewed things going on. Scientific theories as to the conditions of the earth before it had anything like the present atmosphere don't rule that out entirely.
I also don't see why a much longer length for each creative "day" isn't possible. I think the text can justify a much longer length. So, why not?
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I can't stand it so I must post this creationist respond if you can
by skyman ini can't stand it i got to post.
the grand canyon actually disprove creationist because granit rock is the toughest of rocks found on earth.
the grand canyon has areas filled only with granit rock.
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Forscher
wow, I went past 400 posts! Think I'll ever be a Jedi?