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  Rutherford Exposed: The Story of Berta and Bonnie

  by Farkel in

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  it was made by a women who in later years wore crotchless panties and bras which had holes in the nipple areas.

  he not only knew the woman in question (she's now deceased), he has met her numerous times.

  up until recently this secret of her year's long sexual affair with rutherford was kept by the family.

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  It appears from what I've read today and from what I can remember, that Rutherfords son is dead and that he had no offspring, however, the census records did indicate that he came from a large family..sw
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  Rutherford Exposed: The Story of Berta and Bonnie

  by Farkel in

  1. watchtower
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  it was made by a women who in later years wore crotchless panties and bras which had holes in the nipple areas.

  he not only knew the woman in question (she's now deceased), he has met her numerous times.

  up until recently this secret of her year's long sexual affair with rutherford was kept by the family.

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  Sorry..one more question - unless I missed something, did anyone ever name the people who DID attend Rutherfords funeral? I know that there were only 4 people there and they did not include his family - did Bonnie and Berta attend the funeral? William Heath? The caretakers? He had 7 siblings didn't he - did any of them show up?
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  Rutherford Exposed: The Story of Berta and Bonnie

  by Farkel in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  it was made by a women who in later years wore crotchless panties and bras which had holes in the nipple areas.

  he not only knew the woman in question (she's now deceased), he has met her numerous times.

  up until recently this secret of her year's long sexual affair with rutherford was kept by the family.

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  Just spent all day reading this stuff - wow - you guys are amazing! Hats off to you all! ..now - were we ever able to discern if the princess Bonnie was a Balko or a Rutherford? And I'm still curious - why did Rutherfords son detest him so much? There has to be a reason and whatever it was seems to be applied sometime after 1917 at the very least. At what point did Victoria Boyd become a JW? This is fascinating stuff....keep up the great work! sammieswife.
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  HELP! 'FREELOADER' PIONNER SIS. WANTS TO USE MY LAPTOP! HELP!!

  by stillAwitness in

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  the "freeloader" pioneer sister who lives with us asked me this morning if she could "look" up something real quick on my laptop.

  i was not prepared for this and quickly told her the system was down and i would let her use it later.

  how do i get rid of all the recent sites box that you can scroll down to.

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  I'm sorry but in reading this thread it suddenly made me realize how ridiculous is the watchtower fear - imagine any other rational person who might be terrified that someone might find out they took a peak at some porn on their computer and here we are instead, terrified that someone might find out we look at some religious site....puts the whole mess that the society is right up front and in our face doesn't it?..sw
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  Rutherford and Women

  by sammielee24 in

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  ..after reading all the previous info about rutherford and his family/residences etc., is there any proof that exists that rutherford did in fact have a mistress at some time during his separation from his wife?

  i thought there was some speculation that there was a very young woman who lived with him and travelled with him, being his lover but i can't recall her name.

  in addition, how did his wife survive financially if she had no job?

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  ..After reading all the previous info about Rutherford and his family/residences etc., is there any proof that exists that Rutherford did in fact have a mistress at some time during his separation from his wife? I thought there was some speculation that there was a very young woman who lived with him and travelled with him, being his lover but I can't recall her name. In addition, how did his wife survive financially if she had no job? Were there still assets that might have dissolved at the death of her parents and I wonder if she left her property to the society when she died. Why did the son apparently hate his father so much? I find it intriguing that Russell was separated from his wife and then Rutherford was separated from his wife..and who knows how many of the GB after that? That was an interesting thread and just got my curiosity aroused that's all. sammieswife..
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  How does Shunning feel?

  by DaveNwisconsin in

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  just curious as i had never really been a true jehovah witness.

  i would think that you make friends and suddenly you don't exist.

  i would think a board like this is a true godsend.

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  it is i believe the singularly worse thing any human can do to another one...it is demeaning bewildering degrading inhumane...

  ......agree. It isn't only about friends who refuse to talk to you or associate with you in any way, it's also about family refusing to sully the air they breathe by having you around them - and no matter how hard a shell you tell yourself to have, no matter how thick you build that wall of toughness around you - there are at times memories that creep in without warning, that make you frustrated, hurt and angry over the stupidity and senselessness of it all. sammieswife.
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  How Can A Parent Watch Another Parent Torture A Child To Death?

  by minimus in

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  in nyc, there's a case of a little girl who was regularly beaten and "disciplined" y her stepfather with the mother's knowlege, explaining that here 8 (?

  ) year old daughter was at times "insolent and sneaky".

  eventually, the man tortured her to death.

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  I saw this on the news - apparently she was starved, tied up, and beaten till black and blue. Teachers saw it and social workers had been to the home...their last visit according to the news was on Dec 22nd but there was some sort of issue with them not getting inside or seeing the girl that day. This reminds me of that Steinberg case - it's gotta make you wonder what goes on in a persons mind doesn't it? Pretty sick. sammieswife.
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  How do you feel about people on government assistence?

  by free2beme in

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  for a long time, before working with people in this situation, i would have answered this question with .... "i feel for them and i know how degrading it must be, to come to this point in their life to have to depend on the government to sustain them" .

  ... once i got up close and personal with these people, i have learned that my answer only applies to a small group of those on government assistance.

  well from my experience, those on government assistance are more often about taking advantage of the system, then they are about actually being in need of help.

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  Good point Virgo..I knew a shop once that had orders on hold for the first of each month - cartons of cigarettes. The routine was - check + taxi + beer store + smokes and then back home, but I must say for every person that used their funds that way, there were probably another 50 who did not. I knew one woman in my sisters apartment building who was recieving about 1200.00 a month for welfare and lived in a subsidized building so she paid about 200.00 for rent. Her boyfriend lived there and her ex was over there a lot - she bragged about how much money she had. Then there was another woman in the same place but who had no boyfriend, no extra money coming in but who went out and got a student loan, spent 2 years back in school and is now self supporting. I don't know what the answer is. We seem to have lost common sense somewhere along the line sometimes. What is the answer?
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  How do you feel about people on government assistence?

  by free2beme in

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  for a long time, before working with people in this situation, i would have answered this question with .... "i feel for them and i know how degrading it must be, to come to this point in their life to have to depend on the government to sustain them" .

  ... once i got up close and personal with these people, i have learned that my answer only applies to a small group of those on government assistance.

  well from my experience, those on government assistance are more often about taking advantage of the system, then they are about actually being in need of help.

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  How many or what is the real percentage of people at any given time that are on welfare? How many of those are classified as disabled? How many of those are classified as elderly and unable? How many are homeless? I think the rate of able bodied persons actually using the system is far less than people think.

  Lets also bear in mind that selfishness is not a character found only in those who use the welfare systems at any level..(selfishness meaning those who think that people holding out their hands for a few hundred bucks a month are selfish)...selfishness exists at all levels above that. Anyone working in finance/budgets at any level can attest to the amount of paper shuffling that goes on when it comes to dollars in any sector. When a government, usually in an election season, makes welfare the nasty vote counter, people rear up demanding that those budgets get cut - make those sloths work for that dollar. All that is not without reason of course however, what do you think happens to the windfall at the top? When an agency can save 21 million dollars by cutting funding to the poorest, that money has to be spent in the department or often it is forfeited back to the coffers and subsequent budget amounts reduced. So the people at the bottom of the list receive less while those at the top receive substantial bonuses and/or new office furniture of thousands of dollars, increased benefits and so on. When you look at those in front of you using the money, just remember that one of them might be paid in one year what one top administration official is receiving in 1 or 2 months. No system is perfect but maybe things like raising the allowable limits on the amount you can earn while receiving assistance might help, retraining, personal finance courses, charitable work and so on might improve the system in some way. I have no answers but I've seen enough to recognize that these are more complex issues than they might appear. Just my HO. sammieswife.
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  Without naming your city, tell us more about it

  by JH in

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  where i live, you can smell the odor of paper mills.

  it's a port city and people speak french here.

  i think the average age of people here is one of the higest in canada.. there is a shrine that attracts many tourists in the summer time.

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  There is a shrine that attracts many tourists in the summer time

  ...a gorgeous bay...thousands of islands...murals.....sw