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  This Video Makes A Lot More Sense Today With Whats Going Down Today

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  with today's events the message and tone of this video makes a lot more sense.

  thus the defeated, failing, delivery.. http://tv.jw.org/#video/vodprogramsevents/pub-jwbmw_201509_1_video.

  it had a purpose.

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  TheListener

  First off I have to say that was sickening to watch.

  Second WOW! I can't believe he said apostates want to say we're dogmatic and believe whatever we're told and then said we should believe whatever we're told! That was the stupidest most lame presentation ever. I agree that he seemed really uncomfortable and not believable.

  I think based on this there will be further doctrinal changes which may really upset the publishers. The money savings things are one point and a corporate necessity but I think the still to come doctrinal changes will shake some dubs to their core.
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  Are Circuit Overseers next?

  by Londo111 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  last year saw the elimination of the district overseer...and circuit overseers now must retire at 70. how long until the circuit overseer is no more?

  of course, the role might still exist, they would simply not get paid.

  they would have to care for their own expenses.

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  Good idea DoubtingBro, but I think there may be one issue.

  The only problem I see with it is the GB know how many personality and other issues can occur on a body of elders which is one of the reasons COs and the old DOs worked alone but under tight control. If they used a body of elders from various local halls they'd still need someone to oversee them to nip trouble in the bud. Perhaps one of those elders could be called the CO but in fact not be a paid or travelling brother. He'd have control to stop problems but the body as a whole could do the other work involved in running a circuit.
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  C.O.'s Are Perfectly Safe...

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  ... until they have fulfilled their role in the org's master plan to sit down with the bodies of elders in the circuits and ascertain which congregations should be merged or consolidated.

  this "culling" of k.h.

  's will now have to be accelerated - considering the panic to rake in cash.. after the c.o.

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  TheListener

  LisaRose, I think they can still maintain the control but only have the COs visit the congregations once a year - effectively cutting the number of COs in half.
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  The Borg has given up!!!!

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  it's become obvious in the last few days that the borg is done, done giving one dime over to the membership of the organization.

  they know or have been told that it's a waste of time to spend money trying to recruit new members so their cutting all out lays of money in this regard to the bone.

  they will continue to spend money where they can make a prophet, keeping the ones in, not thinking and donating.

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  TheListener

  If the WT declares bankruptcy (can non-profits do that?) then every witness I know will be holed up in a basement expecting the four horseman to kill me.
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  News from Argentina....letters from bethel to bethelites ; Get out with happiness!

  by rege brazzy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  bethelites news news betheliteson friday 50 brothers and sisters at bethel bethelites argentina, took their last breakfast together before heading out to their congregations.the bethel own patterson, new york, an undetermined number of bethelites that they were notified had a week to leave bethel and become regulate pioneers in their congregations.a couple of brothers they sold us everything told they had to go to work where there was more need.

  a couple of months left to work on construction projects of kingdom halls in needy countries ago.

  they have been told it is over.that's how fast things are changing toward the end.we are on the verge of incredible things, so any change is not surprising.is our lord faithful and discreet slave receiving instructions regarding the next future?

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  TheListener

  Doc...Lol, that's exactly what I was thinking.
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  Are Circuit Overseers next?

  by Londo111 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  last year saw the elimination of the district overseer...and circuit overseers now must retire at 70. how long until the circuit overseer is no more?

  of course, the role might still exist, they would simply not get paid.

  they would have to care for their own expenses.

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  I could see them axing the COs but they still need some level of middle management that can keep the congregation elders in line. They want every congregation to be as uniform as possible and a travelling middle manager makes that happen.

  I think them axing half the COs and having a yearly visit would probably be just as effective at achieving their goals and save them quite a bit of money too.
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  A call from family - Armageddon this month!

  by kaik in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i very seldom receive a call from my jw siblings, i mean seldom.

  i can count them on my hand in past 10 years.

  while we talk about mom a lot and i am in touch with her, i was very surprised when i received this call.

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  TheListener

  The dubs live in expectation of the end so it's no wonder that every event in the world and in their organization is viewed through that lens and gets them very excited.

  It seems that recently with the refugees, the pope's US visit and all the changes in the organization itself that many in my wife's local hall (even my wife it seems - remember she doesn't talk to me about it but her activity has upticked and she's talked some to the kids) are really thinking that the great tribulation is really coming fast.

  I wonder how long it will take them to settle down again and if that will have any after-effect such as depression or lack of zeal for awhile....again
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  Template to dump Special Pioneers

  by avaddohn94 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "downsizing" has reached special pioneers.. this is the template mexico is using to get rid of many of its special pioneers.

  see how cold and unloving is the language they use.

  a translation attempt is as follows:.

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  OMG the dubs will be super convinced that the end is coming ASAP!! They'll be no living with my wife for the next few months as these things start to ratchet up their end-of-the-world-glee.
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  Major announcement, news, and video this upcoming Sunday in all kingdomhalls worldwide???

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  got a call from a relative that i should go to the meeting this sunday because something major to be announced.

  (they were told it has to do with branches closing down, missionaries being sent home, etc).

  i said it's probably money.

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  I wonder if my wife has been told there will be a special announcement after Sunday's WT. We were planning on going out of town for the weekend.
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  New member

  by New Order in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello, i am a new member.

  i grew up in the jw religion; however i am not an active jw.

  have been visiting this site for about 3 yrs, and have become quite attached to it.

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  TheListener

  Welcome to the board New Order. You've had quite a life. I hope that you and your husband and son are happy and doing well. I'm so glad the JWs don't come by looking for your donations anymore. You are so much better off having them leave you alone. Please keep posting because you offer a great perspective.