Posts by Ticker

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Proposal for Annulment of Dedication and Baptism

by Bluegrass Tom in

i was baptized in the mid-1960's.

this is 40 years ago.

things have changed doctrinally since then.

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I hope you can do this and set a precadent because it one could annul their baptism from the Org. I would be first in line and cease all acknowledgement even on paper that I ever was connected with this religion.

Problem is though its a high control group. If you look into the psychological methods employed by high pressure control groups they never leave a honourable way out, never give a good excuse for leaving. When one chooses to leave they are always classed in the minds of the group as weak, sinful, lazy, decieved, or some other dishonourable reason. You can not leave these groups with your honour intact. They purposefully destroy the credibility and dignity of the one leaving so that it is a continous reminder to others what happens when you leave the group. Another lovely thought control and indoctrination tactic brought to you by the Watchtower society.

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Ever got stung or bitten by animals?

by greendawn in

did you ever get attacked by nasties from the animal world?

that includes getting stung by bees, wasps, spiders, scorpions, medusas, poisonous fish etc .

or perhaps suffered a snake bite, heavens forbid, or bites from dogs, lions, bears etc

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had a tick on the head of my penis

LOL too much information for me.

Just curious what is a "water moccasin". Never did hear about them before.

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Fear sells but whos buying?

by Ticker in

another thing i always disliked about the organization was all the fear tactics.

a god supposedly with a forefront quality of love was always shown in mags and books to be a tyrant ready to swiftly execute the evil in his hot anger.

everything was fear.

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Another thing I always disliked about the Organization was all the fear tactics. A God supposedly with a forefront quality of love was always shown in Mags and books to be a tyrant ready to swiftly execute the evil in his hot anger. Everything was FEAR. Fear God, Fear the Watchtower, Fear elders, Fear df'ing, Fear doing something wrong, Fear having to much recreational fun, Fear armagedon. For ones with such supposed unwavering faith in ~~God~~ Watchtower they all sure seem paranoid of the world, God, and armageddon.

Obviously the old fear tactic still works to keep one imprisoned in the Org, but what is their recent approachs in the public ministry? Are they still pushing this big fear of armageddon on ones or have they abandoned that approach for more everyday ho hum topics? Just wondering since I've been out for 5 + years now I guess. I still hear them occasionally say how the GB said we were in the final hour before the big A and that makes me laugh. They dont realize how silly they sound when compared to sound reasoning from the bible. They contradict themselves without even knowing it. Stupid gullible people putting trust in man. Sad but true, maybe fear is still selling to the public.

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What did you hear to get that fear ? (No.2)

by A Paduan in

here's is a next in a series of biblical sayings that people run with their assumptions with - this particular one has been discussed recently but i thought it so basic that i should include it here, and again - so score yourselves - how did you used to perceive this - how do jws perceive this - how do you hear/perceive it now?

fear of god is the beginning of wisdom

people who don't fear god are not christians (score 0)

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Every thing is fear with the Watchtower. FEAR FEAR FEAR God FEAR FEAR FEAR GB FEAR FEAR FEAR Armagedon FEAR FEAR FEAR the elders. Im so sick of that bs from the watchtower, just reading all that makes me wonder how I could have swallowed that crap at one time.

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Why can you not question/double standard

by Ticker in

i have been recently reading isocf and am now on the indoctrination chapter.

what always gripes me with the witnesses has been this one simple double standard of theirs.

when you look at a watchtower or any publication of theirs, it has two messages.

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I have been recently reading ISOCF and am now on the indoctrination chapter. What always gripes me with the witnesses has been this one simple double standard of theirs. When you look at a watchtower or any publication of theirs, it has two messages. One for outsiders, one for insiders. It encourages ones outside of the organization to challenge any and all claims of their religion to see if they are viable, even if one holds dear thoese beliefs or has had them for many years. To insiders though the message is never to research, never question, never look into any Organizational policies. This erks me as a clear double standard.

Another thing I have a problem with is they claim that questioning the GB is questioning God. Since when has questioning mens reasoning or logic been ever equated with questioning God. Should not one test and make sure that it is so, especially in the case of imperfect men. Since when does their biblical interpretations become unquestionable by the punishment of disfellowshipment. How can they not see that by putting their trust in men they are being misled. How is it so hard for them to understand that questioning any religions teaching and continually monitoring and researching everchanging doctrines is a right and normal approach to any human interpretation. Its sad but the rank and file have been conditioned to overlook this very conflicting rule when looked at against sound bible reasoning. To me its building foundations upon the sand which can be easily washed away, hence the larger JW turnover rate. I hope ones will wake up and realize that questioning mans reasoning is a necessary and very sound thing to do. Even God warns ones not to be misled but examine the utterance and make sure of all things. I have never agreed with this rule of not being able to discuss Org. policies/doctrines and never will, but would like to get an idea of how they can justify putting mans reasoning on the same level as Gods. They cant use the Holy Spirit excuse because it dont hold water, that would still require putting blind faith in man that they even have holy spirit. I dont buy their reasoning on this and never will, but sure amazes me how they dupe 6 million ordinary people into this reasoning.

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Ever got stung or bitten by animals?

by greendawn in

did you ever get attacked by nasties from the animal world?

that includes getting stung by bees, wasps, spiders, scorpions, medusas, poisonous fish etc .

or perhaps suffered a snake bite, heavens forbid, or bites from dogs, lions, bears etc

Ticker

Lets see many different occasions. Ive recently got stung by a swack of black hornets as I was weedeating and didnt realize their was a huge nest on an tree stump in the grass. BRRRRRR. Swack! All of a sudden I feel about 5 sharp pains on my arms and look! OHHHHH $HIT! Seen them all swarming, huge nest all ripped to shreds and ran like hell. Arm swole up for awhile. Got bitten first time this summer by a wasp while riding my motorcycle. Crawled up my arm stung me. Got stung by a honeybee and believe it or not that one swelled up the worst. Got bitten by a spider before, even bitten and leaped at by a green igauna, it was mating season and I was gonna let him outside and he just leaped at me, that scared the bejeazers out of me. Bite didnt hurt though, the claws and tail are the worst. Had several dog bites over the years, ant bites, and been pecked at by chickens.

Yikes Purplesofa, Ive seen the brown recluse and pictures of what its venom can do. Thats friggin freaky and glad you caught it in time.

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Berry verdict and what YOU can do

by rebel8 in

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it is really sad and shocking that the court did not rule in the girls favor.

elsewhere posted the link to the court documents in another thread, but here it is again: http://www.courts.state.nh.us/supreme/opinions/2005/berry081.htm .

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I think its sad that religion is above the court systems power. They should be held liable just as any individual or other corporation is.

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Great Experiences- I was serfing the net ad came across APOSTATES

by You People Are All Idiots in

wow, yeah i was looking fr the theocratic ministry school oral review questions and i came across an apostate site!

the site was www.jehovahs-witness.com and was just fill of retarded apostates!

they were not only using a domain name and header name that denotes a conection with the actual watchtower society, but where using it to blasphem the jehovah's true organization in order to help people break away.

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Ah, an emissary of Jehovah's loving organization has stopped by to encourage us.

That is funny as hell. I can just picture this dweeby dub at his puter, still dressed in his hand me down 3 piece suit just fresh back from a sunday meeting all pumped from the public talk, thats just gonna tear a stip off the apostates. And teach us all a big lesson for daring to use our free will and choose to disagree with the watchtower hypocrisy.

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Would you go to a funeral at the Kingdom Hall?

by Dustin in

jw
friends

so my brother and i have been having talks about what will happen when our dad passes away eventually.

most of his brothers and sisters have died in their 50's or early 60's.

i flat out refuse to attend any part of the service that would be done at the kingdom hall.

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I just wanted to say that I wouldn't want to go either, I dont blame you. It's hard when it's family though. Either way I agree with blondies comment

These are never about the person but an "opportunity" to preach to the non-JWs present.

Exactly the person means nothing but the Org is all important. Orwellian thinking at its best.

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Who is directing them?

by barbar in

jws claim to be led by god.

he is directing their organisation by his spirit.. they believe that smoking is wrong, in fact a disfellowshipping offense.

so why did god not tell them that smoking was wrong?.

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The GB is probably lucky if they can still even function, nevermind lead. Probably senile dreams is leading them. lol

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