Posts by BoozeRunner

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JW Justifies Societies Pedophiles

by DakotaRed in

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below is a link to a site by who i believe to be along time jw and an article he has written basically justifying the watchtowers stance on the pedophile issue.

the gist of it i got was that since there is so much more of it in other religions, it isn't all that bad within the jws.

what a pity they won't open their eyes;.

BoozeRunner

I love this crap!!! JWs come to about JWs site, and take issue at the fact that the topics talk about JW's!!!

Hilda, if you want to talk about the pedophile problem in the Catholic Church, go to a Catholic site.

The news and media are NOT fixated on JWs, but rather on pedophilia in churches-NO ONE is exempt. It is disgusting, and needs to brought out NO MATTER what religion it is.

I dare say, the Catholic Chuch has gotten 1000x more press than JWs on this issue in the past few months. So, If a murderer was preying on innocent children, you'd want him/her found and identified, and brought to justice. DEMAND the same of the JW leadership.

Numbers aren't important. It is a prolific enough problm in many denominations, and SOMETHING must be done to stop it.

We need a national law to require ALL churches to report allegations to authorities, just as teachers, counselors, etc. are required to do.

KUDOs to the Catholic Church. WHY? Because, they are moving forward w/o such a law. They are coming forth, and being honest with the R&F.

JW's, the self-proclaimed "moral high ground" of religions SHOULD NOT need a law to report these allegations. One would think that the higher standard they claim would move them to report alleged crimes in EVERY state, not just the ones which require it.

F*CK "ecclesial privelege".

Boozy

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Hello

by raven101 in

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hello all, referred here from ex-jw pagans site.

looks pretty active and interesting, far too late for any witty rapport on my part but hello just the same!

BoozeRunner

Helle Raven, and welcome.

Boozy

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Wait on Jehovah!

by jerome in

i have just been thinking about the "wait on jehovah doctrine" for a while because of the silentlambs fiasco and a thread started by you know.. i think that the jws have a certain amount of lead way when it comes to this teaching, i.e this wait on jehovah doctrine is not all bad because the bible teaches that you to trust in god and to have faith, which is totally understandable.. the bible further teaches that 'faith can move a mountain' but i dont think that this verse should be necessarily taken too literally because i dont know of anyone who has moved a mountain simply by faith alone.

but thats just me mabe some of you have move literal mountains simply by faith.. i think that scripture mostlikely refers to the problems in life that you have little controll of like can put food on the table, dont have a place to sleep and you just cant see a way out of your troubles so you put them in the hands of god and have faith that the lord will bring you through to see a brighter day.

[thanx mulan].

BoozeRunner

Heres my take on the subject, from a thread I posted a few days ago.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=27496&site=3

Boozy

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Two Deadly Observations

by metatron in

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i am not terribly shocked that the society, in its .

knorr/rehoboam wisdom, decided to repress whistleblowers.. nor am i surprized when the watchtower deceives, dissembles,.

misleads or quotes out of context.. but ask yourself a question:.

BoozeRunner

Metatron, I love your thought-provoking posts-heres my take on it.

As visible as JW's are in door-to-door activity, they have still been a "closed society." The cult control tactics have seen to this. But with the latest scandal, the world is gettng a peek inside. This is NOT a side of themselves the WTS ever wanted to be public.

Will someone on the "inside" panic? Hard to say, but the news coverage out here now opens up a realm of possibilities.

An insider may conclude, "Wow, the Pandelos, Bowen, Anderson-they are gettng lots of support-maybe its NOT so bad out there."

Who knows? ANYTHING can happen.

Boozy

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Please post ALL Links to papers carrying the story

by Venice in

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http://www.kgoam810.com/complexshowdj.asp?djid=3284.

http://www.cnn.com/2002/us/05/09/jehovah.witnesses.ap/index.html.

http://www.courier-journal.com/localnews/2002/05/08/ke050802s203205.htm.

BoozeRunner

Ven.....nice work.

The great thing is that with all these newspapers online, one can write letters to the editor in so many areas of the country to express inerest in the story. I intend to send out as many letters as possible, not limiting myself to my own state or region. The more interest that is shown, the more exposure this issue gets.

Lets keep the ball rolling-why should the Catholic Church get ALL the ink? LOL

Boozy

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Some Musings

by Farkel in

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i sent it to kent.

the only thing that kept me going was the thought of what my suicide would do to my children for the rest of their lives.

i finally got the courage to seek help for that depression, and im fine now.. alanf and gedanken (two of my good friends) helped me out, and i am most grateful for that.

BoozeRunner

Hi Farkel, and HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!! I have enjoyed your postings since H2O. Yu always ct to the chase, and the best thing is:YOUR RESEARCH. You are excellent at it; always backing up what you say.

Glad to know that you are back on your feet.

Hell, if you are ever in NJ, I'll buy you a few lap dances at the strip joint I work in, and maybe even see if some babe can arrange a blow job. [8>]
(its a guy thing ladies) LOL

Boozy

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We got DF'd/ Assoc. Press called

by ARoarer in

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well we got the phone call from the elder to let us know of the decision to disfellowship us.

the one elder called while the other sat on the phone as a "witness".

the second elder was once a close friend.

BoozeRunner

Barbara and family-You have touched us as well. Also, being here in NJ, I was wondering when the Star Ledger would pick up the story. I was getting pretty impatient, LOL, since I had emailed Bill Bowen's PRESS RELEASE earlier in the week. Glad to see that they are able to get the story in, and are doing proper research.

Hang in there, and thanks for keeping us posted on developments.

Booz

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Isaiah 59 & Waiting on Jehovah.

by BoozeRunner in

every time i hear the kingdumb cliche "wait on jehovah", i think of isaiah chapter 59. especially in light of the events of the past week, that is, the jc meetings for those simply wanting justice to come down on the most horrendous of wrongdoers in the organizaion, and the gross unwillingness of the society to provide such.. keep in mind that the key at the top of the nwt says, "confesses isreal's errors, sins, works".

here are some verses to think about.. vs. 3:for your own palms have become polluted with blood, and your fingers with error.

your own lips have spoken falsehood.

BoozeRunner

Scully..."Waiting on Jehovah" is definitely a ONE-WAY Street in the borg.

What I find is that it is a lame excuse for inaction by the hierarchy and/or elders who simply dont wan to correct a certain situation-usually the type of situation that puts egg on their faces.

Boozy

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Happy Mothers Day to all Mommys!!!!!!

by Cassiline in

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happy mother's day!!!!

for all the mommys who stay up all night with a sick child.

for those who are a taxi to every event under the sun, the cooks, maids, doctors, nurses to every cut and scrape.

BoozeRunner

Happy Mothers Day to all the wonderful Moms!!!!!

Boozy

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Isaiah 59 & Waiting on Jehovah.

by BoozeRunner in

every time i hear the kingdumb cliche "wait on jehovah", i think of isaiah chapter 59. especially in light of the events of the past week, that is, the jc meetings for those simply wanting justice to come down on the most horrendous of wrongdoers in the organizaion, and the gross unwillingness of the society to provide such.. keep in mind that the key at the top of the nwt says, "confesses isreal's errors, sins, works".

here are some verses to think about.. vs. 3:for your own palms have become polluted with blood, and your fingers with error.

your own lips have spoken falsehood.

BoozeRunner

Every time I hear the Kingdumb Cliche "Wait on Jehovah", I think of Isaiah Chapter 59. Especially in light of the events of the past week, that is, the JC meetings for those simply wanting justice to come down on the most horrendous of wrongdoers in the organizaion, and the gross unwillingness of the Society to provide such.

Keep in mind that the key at the top of the NWT says, "Confesses Isreal's errors, sins, works"

Here are some verses to think about.

vs. 3:For your own palms have become polluted with blood, and your fingers with error. Your own lips have spoken falsehood. Your own tongue kept muttering sheer unrighteousness.

vs. 4:There is no one calling out in righteousness, and no one at all has gone to court in faithfulness. There has been a trusting in ureality, and a speaking of worthlessness. There has been a concieving of trouble, and a bringing of what is hurtful to birth.

Verse 11, 14, 15a shows the result of these sinful actions.

vs. 11: We kep groaning, all of us, just like bears; and like doves we kept cooing. We kept hoping for justice, but there was none; for salvation, but it stayed far away from us.

vs. 14:And justice was forced to move back, and righteousness itself kept standing simply far off. For truth has stumbled even in the public square, and what is straightforward is unable to enter.

vs.15a:And the truth proves to be missing, and anyone turning away from badness is being despoiled.
One wonders how Jehovah looked at this particular situation. Verse 15b, 16a gives us a clue.

vs. 15b:And Jehovah got to see, and it was bad in his eyes THAT THERE WAS NO JUSTICE.

vs. 16a: And when he saw that there was no man, HE BEGAN TO SHOW HIMSELF ASTONISHED THAT THERE WAS NO ONE INTERPOSING[/i]

Interestingly, Jehovah wasnt astonished at the badness, but that there was NO ONE stepping in to administer justice. Why was this astonishing? Simply because He had put people in place in his organization back then to do so. He didnt expect anyone to wait for Him to step in. If an organization claims[/i] to represent Him, then those in authority are EXPECTED to administer proper justice.

So, anyone who is taking Bill Bowen, the Pandelo family, and Barbara Anderson to task for blowing the whistle on the WTS, GET A CLUE!!!

Boozy