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  My article published today (I mention publicly how I was disassociated)

  by morrisamb in

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  why should orientation affect my self-respect?.

  the london free press, july 3, 2006. pride could be defined as having a sense of one's own proper dignity or value; self-respect.

  i recently was reminded of my own journey towards that feeling in a most original setting.. i just wonder, can you talk about anything non-gay?.

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  nice one.
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  SO, What happened to : "the generation will not pass away" idea ???????

  by The_Replacement in

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  2. bible

  okay, growing up a jw in the 70's 80's and early 90's, all we heard about was how the generation of 1914 will not pass away,(much like witnesses in the 60's and early 70's all heard about 1975) (what a great parallel) conventions, watchtower articles, public talks, endless studies and of course every issue of the awake magazine had it on the inside cover, it was everywhere, brothers, sisters and elders were absolutely sure about this, the society constantly mentioned it in our kingdom ministry (service), it was everywhere.

  then with the change in november 1995, it just kinda disappeared and became unimportant.. does the society even mention "this generation will not pass away" anymore ?????.

  seems to me, that the past 10 years, it has hardly been mentioned anywhere anymore.. what do you think ??

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  'it passed away' lol The similarity between wts and Orwells 1984 are scary. a very strong control of information. The one born in knew exactly what you were saying, the one recruited after 95 prob never heard about it, its true. I remember tellimg a schoolmate when I was about 12 about it and stressing the end can come at anytime. Im now ebarrassed that freind will ask me what happened.that lie directly affects me, like the UN propaganda I distributed, they made me look like an idiot.
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  Update Update

  by RichieRich in

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  2. friends

  well, it's cold in alaska.. i'm on a billion dollar boat with a dial up internet connection, and a, well, boat load of asians.. god, those people photograph everything.

  i took my shoes off in the gym, and i had like sixteen little asian girls looking at them.

  oh, the stories i could tell..... the funniest thing is watching my grandfather communicate with the foreign staff.

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  heretic

  Yeah, it was pretty much cooler than anything you've ever done. what if ive done fonzy.
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  progress, getting through to the family!!

  by heretic in

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  2. friends

  the heretic continues to fight the fine fight.

  i had a good talk with my old man today, exelder, he doesnt want any position of authority now just wants to be a witness on the downlo, he knows my problem with the un hypocrisy (hes seen the docs) and the quotes damning evidence, hes listening man, im slowly getting through, he knows that im in contact with apostates i said i do it to support disfellowshipped ones who have nobody, he doesnt have a problem with that.

  he hopes ill come back, i said i would if i could get satisfactory answers... ahh sweet.

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  yeah cheers guys, its all going better than expected. ive got my dad also mum and step dad going at the same time, its hard to keep you all up to date on the situation. as ive expressed in earlier posts im just sticking to the UN, blood issue and 'quotes' as my main reasons for losing faith, it seems to be working, if one gets stuck in their mind itll be enough to jolt them, Ive got around the 'apostate walls' by slowly mentioning 'i dont want to get into it cos youll think im an apostate' and saying 'I dont want any apostate crap i just want the facts'(when refering to my internet research especially on the UN issue). the seeds are planted my friends.. nows a time for a shout out to Simon and gang at JWD, Kents watchtower observer rip and quotes, for these three websites gave me my life back. Awesome work guys all fighting the fine fight. Well hopie welcome and thanks for throwing down your first post on my thread!! wow how jehovah has blessed my efforts aahh
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  progress, getting through to the family!!

  by heretic in

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  the heretic continues to fight the fine fight.

  i had a good talk with my old man today, exelder, he doesnt want any position of authority now just wants to be a witness on the downlo, he knows my problem with the un hypocrisy (hes seen the docs) and the quotes damning evidence, hes listening man, im slowly getting through, he knows that im in contact with apostates i said i do it to support disfellowshipped ones who have nobody, he doesnt have a problem with that.

  he hopes ill come back, i said i would if i could get satisfactory answers... ahh sweet.

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  the heretic continues to fight the fine fight. I had a good talk with my old man today, exelder, he doesnt want any position of authority now just wants to be a witness on the DownLo, he knows my problem with the UN hypocrisy (hes seen the docs) and the quotes damning evidence, hes listening man, im slowly getting through, he knows that im in contact with apostates i said i do it to support disfellowshipped ones who have nobody, he doesnt have a problem with that. He hopes ill come back, i said i would if i could get satisfactory answers... ahh sweet. He said he wont bring up the UN thing with anyone at the hall cos itll just create a frenzy, so hes starting to realise how it works, he also doesnt agree with the 1975 'play down' (he actually brought that one up) he said they should admit fault. the scary thing tho was when i said im researching the blood issue and he eventually was in a corner and said... wait for it "in 40 years or so your going to die anyway" I said woah dont ever say that cos it scares the hell out of me, he seemed surprised by my reaction. I need him out now.. sorry about my terrible punctuation.
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  Acknowledging the opposition within: Small number of JW's disgruntled

  by truthseeker in

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  2. friends

  this in regard to mary's post of the july 15, wt "see the goodness of jehovah's organization".

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/114847/1.ashx.

  there have been a number of important and exciting developments in the society during the first half of 2006. firstly, a large number of bethelites are being evicted (i wonder if the.

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  great post truthseeker. im typing a story but ill start a new thread.
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  "My Dad is Watching Pornography" JW TEEN part 2. BAD!

  by Dune in

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  2. child-abuse

  for those who are not familiar with the story heres the page.

  so just to sum it up a bit, this girl caught her dad watching porn, told me about it and then talk about ways to get him to stop watching it.

  apparently she never told the elders and apparently he stopped watching porn.

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  well done dune, I think the elders might come down harder on you for getting the worldly authorities involved than the father. but hey its a good thing to get booted for. Your a CHAMPION
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  religious nut

  by heretic in

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  http://www.wimp.com/religious/

  at the end she says 'our church is hated and thats what the scriptures say would happen' urrggh

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  heretic

  http://www.wimp.com/religious/ at the end she says 'our church is hated and thats what the scriptures say would happen' urrggh
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  the lion will eat straw like the lamb...

  by DannyBloem in

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  or something like that.. i think not any one real sund in mind can believe this unquestionably.. anyway, what is ths current point of view of the jw's on this?.

  is is so, that they also believe that in the time of adam and before it was literal like this?.

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  when you realy think about these stories that you took as true without question it seems crazy but we were all there once so we need to be gentle with our soon to be X jw drones
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  Were YOU Wrong, or, were you WRONGED?

  by prophecor in

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  2. beliefs

  i left because of sins of the flesh.

  i held onto years worth of guilt and felt i could no longer serve jehovah with a clean conscience, as i was practicing that which was unbecoming of a christian.

  my sins were enough to assist in my walking away from the truth as i could not serve as a hypocrite and look my fellow brothers and sisters in the eye, without feeling guilty of treason.. i was wrong.

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  same boat prophecor, but a bit of both i was wronged by elders big time (the tape is comin) but 1/2 year later fornicated more than once which didnt show 'signs of repentance' and was dfed which threw it all on me, 18mths later i walked after it was apparent i couldnt (wouldnt be allowed) back in. after 1 1/2 years thinkin for myself found the 'web poison' and my mind hasnt been the same mwahahahah. Lots of people in the sydney exjw meetup group were dissed for apostacy, I said to one i wish i was but they said its the same result no matter, so I guess its not a glamorous exit no matter which way you get f****d.. in the end youve still been f****d