since finding out more about the wtbts over the last year, it has come as no surprise to me anymore that the deceptive actions of the mother (wtbts) are seen in some of her children.
the need for double thinking, self deluding beliefs and sneaky, twisted belief and thought patterns that i have noticed over the years in so many jws suddenly makes sense and is no longer scandalising or suprising.. so when i was told of the behaviour of a 'fine, upstanding, pillar of the community, brother' i simply shrugged.
however, the results of his behaviour are not something to simply shrug your shoulders over.. it turned out for the last thirty years of his being married he has conducted affairs with another two 'sisters' in the congregation.
Nothing surprising, after all its human nature. I knew of elders that would cheat, lie and manipulate all the time. In my old cong. in Puerto Rico this elder was having an affair with another brothers wife. They got caught so the elder and his mistress took off together to New York.
This is nothing new, it happens everywhere in the world not only on the Borg.
organization and the faith.
what hope do yall entertain for the future....the everlasting future?
do you still believe, want to be on a paradise earth or what?
I understand your point very well. That was your experience, but not necessarily typical. Most of us really, really believed in this stuff. We believed in the suppression of our own wills to that of the Org, though shrouded in much different terms. You, somehow, must not have succumbed to it. As I said, you were one of the lucky ones. It took me years to rid my psyche of the majority of programming. For some it takes longer, some shorter.Just because you experienced it one way, does not make it so for the rest.
Daystar,
I agree with your point and I can see how the JW programs their followers. I was one of them and it did take me some time to get rid of that mentality.
Coffe_black,
I also agree with your point that some might stay because of family left behind. My mother, uncle and some cousins are still in but somehow I still talk to them without any problems. I was able to fade successfully so the elders don't bother me and they don't bother anyone that still talks to me. To most in the KH I'm still a witness because I haven't been DFed so they still talk to me when they see me. In their eyes I'm just another 'spiritual weak person' that doesn't attend the weekly meetings anymore. Seeing as so far it hasn't caused me any problems that's how I plan on leaving it.
organization and the faith.
what hope do yall entertain for the future....the everlasting future?
do you still believe, want to be on a paradise earth or what?
Ok, but you were one of the lucky ones then.
I guess my point would be that we weren't forced to do all these things for the society, the ones who did anything was all done out of freewill. Nobody forced anyone that I know of from the KH to do anything they didn't want to do. We can all blame the WT for giving us messed up advice, like being a pioneer instead of going to college, but eventually the individual (not the WT) is the one who has to make the decision.
I went and did a couple of quick builds with the WT as a volunteer, I was a MS for many years, plus many other things. I wasn't forced to do it. But as I grew older and realized the stupidity behind it all I refused to let them run my life anymore so I just said that's it, they will no longer tell me what is acceptable and what is not. So I made my own decision to leave and I never had any problems since.
organization and the faith.
what hope do yall entertain for the future....the everlasting future?
do you still believe, want to be on a paradise earth or what?
Some people were raised in the religion and thus had very little free will that was not influenced by WBTS programming.
I was also raised in the religion but I didn't let that prevent me from choosing what to do with my own life once I turned into an adult. *edited for spelling*
organization and the faith.
what hope do yall entertain for the future....the everlasting future?
do you still believe, want to be on a paradise earth or what?
When this above pic was taking i was giving $1,000 every month to the Kingdom Hall building slush fund,and i kept it up for years.I gave it all to the ivory tower not into an IRA for my retirement.I just bought my girlfriend (my hot babe too) a brand new SUV with "jehovers money"
SCREW U Watchtower
Wow, you gave them $1,000 every month? Were you forced to give them that money? If not, I'm sorry but I must say that's a pretty stupid thing to do. What if they told you to kill yourself would you have done it? I see why you get upset about the JW religion, we've all been thru that. But at the same time if they told me me I had to give them $1,000 every month I would've laughed in their faces. Even when they asked me to put the Kinddumb in first place and put college in second place I laughed at them. No way was I going to let them run my life. We all had free will even while we were part of that cult.
yabba dabba doooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
whats everyones plans.
i am going to relax relax realx.. wife is out of town, so i might go to the bar( just joking) watch alittle football on sunday.
Planning on watching the UFC tonight with a friend of mine. We'll be getting liquored up for after the UFC ppv when we'll go out to a bar right by my house. Good times!
raise your hand?
put on the spot and didnt know the answer?
or just werent paying attention?
My BS conductor would also make us comment about every picture in the book we were studying, and he would call on his wife when nobody else had their hand raised up. You could tell she didn't like it because whenever he did that she would give him a real dirty look!
I had the chance to conduct the BS a couple of times, when I did it I just wanted to get it over with. I remember finishing the whole study in 45 minutes instead of the full hour! After a while they stopped giving me that assignment.
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my first semester in college is okay but how do you stay focused guys?
i wanna strive for a's instead of just a passing grade but sometimes i feel so blah when i wake up in the morning.
Just think about whatever you do in college right now will be your future. If you slack off and don't put much effort to college later on when you get older you will regret it. All I can say is put your best effort now and when you finally get out off college and you'll look back and be glad you did.
a jw parking a hummer at a kingdom hall.
this is nothing unusual at this hall.
when i drive by in the mornings to take the hubby to work, i often see lexus, bmws, mercedes, caddies, audis, etc.
Back in the 70s Witnesses actually thought and taught this way.
Well, we're not in the 70's anymore. And that kind of thinking won't get you anywere.
president bush says that he is going to texas to visit the state where hurrican rita will hit.
but the eyewall is probably going to actually make landfall in louisiana!
well i suppose he has to let all his supporters in texas know that he cares.
I'm not really sure what you're referring to, but last time I checked Hurricane Rita is headed towards Houston, Texas.
Maybe I'm missing something.
