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  The Revelation of Saint John the Divine

  by Caupon in

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  apparently there are anointed members of god's earthy organization, or the jehova's christian witness church.

  my understanding of this is that those select few appointed by holy spirit directed by he who is above will rule over the other sheep with the jesus in heaven.

  their biblical proof of this is supposedly in the acts of the apostles and the last book, the revelation.

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  Honesty

  There are no Jehovah's Witnesses who meet the criteria at Romans chapter 8.

  Any that were ahve already made their exit from the Jehovah's Witnesses and are now loaylly serving Jesus.

  The Watchtower's anointed is a sham based on lies.
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  What is the GB Giving Back?

  by kneehighmiah in

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  2. friends

  in harmony with acts 6:1-7, what is the gb giving back to the r&f?

  the post about the cos being retired and recent wt articles about caring for older ones made me think.

  the gb is doing everything to cut costs while at the same time asking for more sacrifices.

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  The Governing Body gives back guilt trips, demands absolute obedience to them disguised as loyalty to Geehova and spritual death to any JW who sees through their scam.
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  International Conventions for 2014 - Landover, MD - What is an International Convention?

  by insearchoftruth in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  have been out of touch for a while, i see that there is an 'international' convention this year in landover, md (fed ex field) and there are no english conventions in either richmond or hampton, va. what is an 'international convention', is it merely a consolidation of all the other conventions meant to whip up some fervor amongst the masses?.

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  Enjoying a week at the beach is much more appealing without having to listen to hour after hour of bullshit about the faithful slave.
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  Watchtower Scandals

  by snare&racket in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for the new members and guests viewing posts, can we summarise the basics of disclosed watchtower scandals that have happened and come to light.for the sake of the reader, can we have a brief summary and a secular source for the information, or a direct quote from the literature please.. .

  owning a military company.. the watchtower accepted, owned and managed the largest shares in a military navy company.

  funded by naval investment, the company was building diesel engines for navy pilotless drones and other vehicles.

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  Honesty

  You will not convince JW's with any of that.

  If they swallowed the BS at the 2012 Annual Meeting that when the GB meets they are the faithful and discreet slave nothing will convince them that the Watchtower Society is a sham.
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  Right! So the meeting last night, a few interesting things

  by Jon Preston in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so i havent been to a meeting in some time and my wife decided we should go.

  we showed up late, i was love bombed by an elder with a man-hug where i felt i was made a spectacle of.

  moving on.

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  Honesty

  I'm sorry to bust your Watchtower induced bubble, Rattigan but you don't get a second chance to reject Jesus in the Watchtower's paradise earth fanatsy.

  There is no paradise earth. During Christ's 1,000 year reign no one will be resurrected. The first resurrection will have already taken place and armageddon survivivors will live under Christ's rule in great conditions but still no paradise earth because people will still die according to Isaiah 65:20.

  Paradise is in heaven according to 2 Corinthians 12:2-4.

  The second resurrection is a resurrection to judgement, not life according to John 5:29.

  The Watchtower lied.
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  I did it !!!!

  by snare&racket in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  7 years ago i started on a path i had long ago given up on as impossible.

  i met with my elders and told them i could not justify carrying on as a jw.

  i went and got my high school qualifications and my higher education diploma (a levels with distinction) in just 12 months.

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  Honesty

  Congratulations!

  But, the new system got here two years ago so your services will not be needed beacuse the faithful slave is healing and forgiving everyone who survived the armageddon carnage.

  Enclosed, you will find your temporary work assignment which will put your medical skills to use.

  You have been assigned to help Brother Macabre sort and separate armageddon victimes by size so they can be stacked neatly in mass graves.

  Again, congratulations on forsaking Geehova for 6 years, ignoring the more important things such as attending the weekly sales seminars and hawking books for the slave.
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  An honest man at Bethel.

  by LogCon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you knocked at the front door of bethel saying, 'i'm looking for an honest man', would they let you in?.

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  ROFL
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  if and when beliefs are "refined"(corrected) does that give me an out?

  by ?me? in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  did my baptism include "you will preach and accept any change, big or small, or we can call you an apostate?".

  meaning, has anyone, or could anyone opt out of the org when they make changes that you did not originally agree to when you were baptized as a jw?.

  i have basically refused to go out in service or support the org (with money or in the rbc) and i have a real hard time even conjuring up an answer at any meeting because of the 8 man "body " that put itself in power.

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  Honesty

  Your baptism talk included a question that you had to provide a "Yes!" answer to in order to get yourself dunked.

  According to the footnote on page in the April 15, 1987 Watchtower article "Gaining Peace With God Through Dedication and Baptism" your "yes" answer indicated that you had FULL COMPREHENSION of what is involved in coming into INTIMATE relationship with God and his earthly organization.

  You can leave but you will get shunned even if you don't DA or get DF'd.

  The cult had an army of lawyers draw up the baptismal questions so that they can enforce shunning if a rank & file member figures out it is BS and decides to maake an exit.

  You are screwed if you open your mouth.

  The best way out is to fade and feign depression or an illness such as fibromyalgia when you encounter the thought police and they encourage you to return to the vomit.
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  Baptisms only at regional ( district ) assemblies from 2014 / 15 service year?

  by dozy in

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  2. friends

  just a rumour but i guess it makes sense - i've a friend on a circuit committee ( he knows it's not "the truth" but for family & work reasons he stays in ) & he says that the wtbts have told them not to book a swimming pool for next years one day assemblies as the plan is to have only one baptism a year at the main regional ( what they used to call "district" ) convention.. with the drop off in baptisms so that sometimes there isn't anyone baptised or just a handful , i guess this is inevitable.

  i remember going to a baptism a few years ago - we had hired a municipal 25 metre swimming pool and only one person ( a rather confused and scared middle aged lady who hadn't been in a swimming pool since her youth ) was being baptised - it was all something of a farce with the "worldly" staff looking on very puzzled at such an elaborate & expensive ceremony for one person.

  ) also with both assemblies being one day with just short morning & afternoon sessions , i suppose it is sensible to ditch the baptism talk - it tends to be something of a snoozefest anyway at the end of the morning session.

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  The poor sods who have to wait a year are going to be nervous wrecks thinking armageddon will arrive before they get dunked.
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  hello

  by fakefading in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hello my fellow "apostates".

  just wanted to say hi.

  i'm still in the borg but mentally out.

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  Honesty

  Welcome!

  Take it easy with your spouse if you want your marriage to survive.

  I unloaded TTATT on mine and she couldn't handle it.

  That was over 10 years ago and I haven't seen my youngest child in 6 years after she or her handlers decided I am too apostate for the child to have as association.

  I hope you don't have any children.