Posts by Honesty

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Where is Charles Sinutko now?

by moggy lover in

does anyone have any news about charles sinutko, who give the infamous "stay alive till '75" talk?

forty years have passed since then, so is he still alive and still with the watchtower?

anyone heard anything?.

Honesty

Robert C Sinutko

Birth:	Aug 30 1937
Death:	Apr 3 2003
Last residence:	Desert Hot Springs, California 92241, USA
SSN issuing state: California

http://www.myheritage.com/research/collection-10002/us-social-security-death-index-ssdi?itemId=85223839-&action=showRecord

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I'm studying with Jehovah's Witnesses!!

by Kulotti79 in

jw
friends

hello all... i currently studying the bible teach book and i'm just curious what information does the study conductor record about the student and is it passed on??

and they keep on saying "the truth" which is starting to get on my nerves.

lol.

Honesty

Have you been told that all of your friends and nonJW family are under satan's control and don't want you to learn the truth?

Have you been forewarned about visiting any sites or talking with anyone who is critical of the Watchtower Society or its doctrines?

My 22 year-old daughter and 19 year-old son haven't spoken a word to me in almost 10 years because they are in the truth.

None of my JW friends have spoken to me in almost 10 years because I left the truth and went to Jesus.

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Reasoning with JW's: chapter 1.

by runForever in

chapter 1: where to start?.

if a jw says to you: "we have the truth and you know it!".

how could you reply?.

Honesty

If a JW says to you: "We have the truth and you know it!". How could you reply?

Easy.

Show them threads started by A R Stupid.

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rama singh WHAT HE REALLY SAID, so you men can stop lying

by atheist_R_stupid in

"there have been repeated scientific challenges to the.

theory of evolution in the past, and the nonbelievers of evo-.

lution cite them as support for their case.

Honesty

A R Stupid,

Has the Watchtower Society ever misquoted anyone, plagiarized copyrighted photos from other sources or lied to their followers?

Think real hard before you answer and prove that you really are the fool most readers believe you are.

http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/misquotes-deception-lies.php

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Lets pretend jw's disappeared

by atheist_R_stupid in

and joined your ranks.... this means...youre talking about a people, that currently are pushing no sex till marriage.

that would end and join into the messages you currently push regarding youths and sex.

that would be sex, with condoms.

Honesty

A R Stupid,

It is very clear that your extreme lack of reasoning stems from your involvement with Jehovah's Witnesses and the Watchtower Society.

Born again Christians do not believe in sex outside of marriage.

Christians who are in the military are there not to kill people, but to help them get closer to Jesus and help the people who are being slaughtered by pagan armies survive the atrocities visited upon them.

According to the Watchtower magazine, voting is a personal matter dictated by one's conscience. Therefore, your silly talking points are moot.

Christians voted overwhelmingly against gay marriages in states which put the proposal on the ballot. Therefore, your silly talking points regarding gay marriage are moot.

Every civil rights case that JW's won were very self serving. JW's have no civil rights because they can't exercise the right to worship God without serious consequences if their consciences lead them to believe the Jehovah's Witnesses are not teaching and practicing what the bible really teaches.

I personally believe that a lot of Jehovah's Witness should remain Jehovah's Witnesses because they are not able to cope with the reality of their surroundings and have been robbed of their ability to reason and think critically by the Watchtower Society, which would make them very vulnerable to the many scams and get rich-quick-scams of godless men.

Proof of the above is adequately demonstrated by the Watchtower Society's clever ability to deceive millions of Jehovah's Witnesses that Jesus returned invisibly over 100 years ago.

BTW, your silly talking points sound like those of a snotty nosed 8 year-old instead of an adult.

However, please carry on with your goofy nonsense because it helps nonJW see how wacked out Jehovah's Witnesses are.

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what type of faith do you REALLY want?

by atheist_R_stupid in

i find that when talking people who say they "used to be a jehovah's witness" they say words that show they have in fact, never been one.

it's like a man that worked for the post office for 30 years in a main major urban hub like chicago or new york... and you ask him, "in your last position, what was your rdo?

" and the man says "whats an rdo?".

Honesty

AR Stupid,

I made a lot of back calls when I used to be a Jehovah's Witness.

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Need list of notable bible people who Jah let slide

by RedPillPopper in

need a list of people like cain, lot, david, etc who did things they should have been put to death for but jah forgave, excused or turned a blind eye to.

thanks for any info.. .

Honesty

Jacob

He stole the blessing reserved for the firstborn son.

Jacob was not an unreserved worshiper of Yahweh: Genesis 28:20-21

The flocks conceiving in front of the poles (Genesis 30:39) has reference to the concept of the pagan asherah poles, before which worshipers had sex.

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Why I like Jehovah's Witnesses

by undercover witness in

i keep reading that jehovah's witnesses are in effect monsters.

i keep reading that they kinda leave chaos and distrust in their wake.

so i simply wondered if anyone had anything nice to say about them?.

Honesty

undercover witless:
However, there are many reasons why I like Jehovah's Witnesses wherever they may be. They know the essential validity of the Bible and from all of the versions of the Bibles, their's is the only one that makes any actual sense.

Their bible may make sense to someone like you, but to those of us who relied on it for years to guide our deceived steps, it is the worst piece of spiritual pornography ever produced.

Enjoy your delusion.

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Did Polonius kill his wife? A problem with apolegetics

by bohm in

jw
friends

a basic problem with christian apologetics when applied to the bible is that it relies on the tacit assumption you can draw reliable conclusions on the material.

the most common form of apologetics start out by certain claims (the tomb was found empty, the disciples had post-crusifiction experiences of jesus that transformed their lives, etc.

this is hearsay since the person who made the statement cannot be sworn in.

Honesty

Caedes

Honesty,

You are correct I do not have to fear any of those things because I live in a largely secular country where atheism is not persecuted. Even in my country however we still have to fight to stop religious people from imposing their beliefs on those of us that don't share them. Beliefs that you cannot provide any evidence for.

I am glad that you live in a country where you can practice your belief (or is it more correct to say "disbelief"?) without persecution. Hopefully, your government is able to curtail the activities of religious wackos so you aren't bothered too much by them. Your country sound much like the Czech Republic where atheism is the predominant belief.

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Did Polonius kill his wife? A problem with apolegetics

by bohm in

jw
friends

a basic problem with christian apologetics when applied to the bible is that it relies on the tacit assumption you can draw reliable conclusions on the material.

the most common form of apologetics start out by certain claims (the tomb was found empty, the disciples had post-crusifiction experiences of jesus that transformed their lives, etc.

this is hearsay since the person who made the statement cannot be sworn in.

Honesty

Caedes3 hours ago

Honesty,

The problem is that it is you who is making the claim that jesus was a real person and was resurrected, the burden of proof is on you. I am not making any claim about jesus merely stating that I have seen no evidence to convince me he was real or that he was resurrected.

The problem with your claim about Tacitus is that Tacitus was a meticulous historian and yet he only refers to the title christus not to jesus. His reference is only in relation to giving details of the source of the term Christian. His reference to Pontius Pilate also uses the wrong title for Pontius Pilate he wasn't procurator. The fact that a well respected Roman historian has the correct dates for events pertaining to the Roman empire should be of no surprise. What is a surprise is that he didn't know the name Jesus and didn't know Pontius Pilate's title. Perhaps his source for this small anecdote wasn't very reliable. Either way hardly conclusive evidence for jesus and zero evidence that jesus was resurrected.

I don't have any burden of proof regarding Jesus and i posted information from a Roman historian's point of view.

You can believe Jesus wasn't a real person and therefore wasn't resurrected or not.

No one is going to disfellowship you, figuratively stone you to death or cause you harm in any way no matter what you believe about Jesus unless you are a member of some wacky religious cult.

Your beliefs about Jesus doesn't affect how i should treat you,which is with respect as a fellow human being who is just trying to live your life the best way you see fit like everyone else.

Have a great weekend.