That was a really beautiful OP. It pretty much sums up my life.
Posts by rebel8
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True Apostates
by objectivetruth inall truly great men & women of past & present all have something in common.. they stand up for truth.. "i am not bound to win, but i am bound to be true.
i am not bound to succeed, but i am bound to live by the light that i have.
i must stand with anybody that stands right, and stand with him while he is right, and part with him when he goes wrong.
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A few verbatim quotes from Anthony Morris' talk during the Branch Visit.
by Open mind inhaven't contributed much here in a while.
it's not modest and it's certainly not sound of mind.
you be spiritual man enough to tell these young fellows 'you don't go out in the ministry looking like that.
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rebel8
"If you haven't, my next question is, but have you been able to find a way to get a trip to a well-known amusement park?" (Long pause) "Explain that to God."
Ok. "Hey jehoopla, I spend 4 hours at meetings every week, hours in field service, hours getting ready and traveling to those things, cleaning the Hall, going to assemblies, personal and family study, sacrificing fun and normalcy in every single aspect of my and my family's life, and have laid down on the altar ready to die for the blood myth. I'm going to Six Flags. K?"Why is it so important to visit Bethel? Going there is such a nail-in-the-coffin experience for a jw who doesn't like brainwashing or communes.
..what it is is this Spanx, this skin-tight stuff they wear. Now, are you sisters wearing this in the ministry? No. I can't say that I've ever seen that. But when they exercise, they leave their home and they're jogging in this stuff?
Are you kidding?! He doesn't know they're undergarments? He doesn't know women wore girdles for decades? I think we should do a mass letter campaign to answer his question, "...are you sisters wearing this in the ministry?" Ladies, he wants to know what type of underwear we're wearing while selling his message. I think we should write him to let him know how uncomfortable and sweaty we are and ask if Jehovah would mind if we wore cotton Hanes instead, although our love handles will show. "Brother, if Jehovah hates Spanx, why did he give me cottage cheese thighs?"
If he's talking about exercise wear, um, what are they supposed to wear when jogging? Prarie skirts? I have a fundie employee right now who only owns past-the-knee full skirts, no jeans, etc. I asked her what she wears when cleaning or gardening. Skirts.
tight all the way down to the ankles. And, that is not modest brothers.
omg. Yes. It's so inappropriate for us to see the outline of your calves and ankles.We may get turned on. -
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"It's the intent that counts and not the result."
by donny in"it's the intent that counts not the result.".
i have been out of the jw organization for some 22 years now and i sometimes get a reminding jolt out the hoops that some will jump through to make their religion make sense to them.
the first line in this post is what a jw on the street here in salinas told me on saturday when trying to justify the society's history of false prophecies.
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rebel8
Intent does matter--exactly.
Me: Think about what you just said. It is better to put forth bad data to keep folks excited than it is to wait for clear and concise instructions.
JW: I know it sounds weird but that is the way Jehovah works?
Was he asking or telling?
That may be the first time I've ever heard a jw state jehovah does that on purpose.
Somebody needs to practice his sales pitches from the Reasoning book.
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Children calling jw adults uncle and auntie, when did that start?
by awakening ini cant figure out when the auntie and uncle thing started or why.
it sure is a peadophiles dream to have a kid they dont know call them uncle!
they are now in a special relationship.
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rebel8
tim hooper, that is creepy! In my area in the 70s, it was not socially acceptable to call adults by first names (as you said), so we called them bro and sis. It was an opportunity to "be different from the world" while out in public, like wearing unfashionable fringe as the Israelites did.
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So the Orkin guy walks into my office...
by Dagney inlooks at me and says "you look familiar.
" he says, "dagney xxxx" .
turns out he was from my old hall, i remember when "he came into the truth.
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rebel8
Why tell him you don't go?
Call him and say you have an infestation and need his help. You can hear the creatures in the walls, skimpering across the floor and whispering in your ear. Bad things have started happening to people in your office. One woman was infected by them and they attacked her at home in her bed. You believe they got into the office when someone brought a Ouija board. When you try calling out to Jehovah, they stop.
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When did you start getting ANGRY?
by Separation of Powers inwhen i started the fade....i recognize that i was upset, mainly because of the desillusionment.
but, over the course of the past several months, i am noticing an increasing anger toward all thing org.
it can only be described as indignation, not simply upset.
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rebel8
I wrote about this. Anger is part of coping with grief and it can be useful. It motivates you to investigate and find the truth. It clarifies your personal rights that were violated and helps you learn how and when to stand up for yourself in the future. It drives you to stick up for others. It helps you see clearly what actual moral values are.
If you hold on it too long--let it fester--all that energy will begin to turn inward as destructiveness. You'll start to feel too much like a victim and not like a survivor. You may have malevolent thoughts of revenge. You may even desire that revenge so stronly that you become willing to invent crimes the borg did just to quench your thirst for character assassination--a weapon used by the powerless.
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This is Really Getting Scary!!! PLEASE LOOK!!
by NoMoreHustle instupid me does not know how to copy paste pics from instagram site.
nmh.
http://instagram.com/p/vbu5_xhiam/.
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rebel8
Noooooooo
ow. my eyes!
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Millerites, Jehovahs Witnesses and Purple Triangles
by Simon ini came across this after posting another iq video to a different topic.
interesting how much the jehovahs witnesses are featured ... but it is because they are a millenial cult with failed rapture prophecies:.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chug6f0tnfg.
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rebel8
1914 in Jerusalem where Russell and some of his special friends went to await the 'Rapture'.
Ok so this is confusing. I found that photo on quotes.watchtower.uk. It says CTR and The Judge went to Jerusalem with that group to be the 1st to experience the rapture.
So what did they do, teleport back to NY?
“Quite a few delegates stayed at Bethel, and, of course, members of the headquarters staff were present at the breakfast table on Friday morning, October 2. Everyone was seated when Brother Russell entered. As usual, he said cheerily, “Good morning, all.” But this particular morning was different. Instead of proceeding promptly to his seat, he clapped his hands and joyfully announced: “The Gentile times have ended; their kings have had their day.” “How we clapped our hands!” exclaims Cora Merrill. Brother Macmillan admitted: “We were highly excited and I would not have been surprised if at that moment we had just started up, that becoming the signal to begin ascending heavenward—but of course there was nothing like that, really.” Sister Merrill adds: “After a brief pause he [Russell] said: ‘Anyone disappointed? I’m not. Everything is moving right on schedule!’ Again we clapped our hands.”” Yearbook 1975 pp.72,73
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Help
by Horseygirl12 inim so frustrated i could kill myself right now!!
im 15 and a couple weeks ago i confessed to my parents that i didn't want to be a jehovahs witness anymore and also that i was bisexual.
i had just gotten back from an eating disorder clinic and my parents decided to put me back in school (i was homeschooling before).
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rebel8
There are mental health hotlines you can call to talk to someone when you need to--many of them.
IMO your focus needs to be on how to survive the next ~2 years until you're old enough to escape. You can do this.
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I am JW.ORG
by LogCon infamous quote from wuthering heights revised.. '... i am jw.org!
it's always, always in my mind: not as a pleasure, any more than i am always a pleasure to myself, but as my own being.
so don't talk of our separation again: it is impracticable...'.
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