Posts by moshe

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How do I as a future "Therapist" help ex-jws that won't move on from the WT?

by booker-t in

i am halfway through my master's program in psychology/sociology and plan on being a therapist/sounselor.

i left jw's in 1988 and i have never looked back.

i enjoy my life so much after getting my aa degree, then my ba degree, and now i will soon get my ma degree.

moshe

I think some folks are so needy of family approval that they will allow themselves to be treated like a doormat and in so doing miss out on the best chance for the real life they were meant to live. If they are OK with living a life dictated by WT rules through JW relatives, there isn't much hope for therapy to free them.

They are also empowering the JWs, because the Witnesses see weak ones, fading ones and disassociated/df'd relatives still begging for mumsy and popsy's, brother and sister, grown children and old JW friends approval- the addiction is so strong for that pat on the head, that they will never be their own person and their life will be on a canvas that has the borders painted in by JWs under WT mind control. Kicking the can down the road is not a plan, it's an excuse to avoid pain and then comes the recovery.

And lying- that is at the root of all of it. Without lies, the charade couldn't last- the truth would cause pain, but you would have your real life back and could move forward.

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So the flood didn't happen.....

by snare&racket in

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that flood that according to the bible was several meters higher than everest (note noah and everything on his boat would not be able to,breathe at this height) apparantly didn't do that much damage to civilisations in world history...... funny that?

i wonder what else is bullsh*t in those scrolls????.

moshe

But there is a miracle we can see- The Jews keeping Passover for over 2500 years. The Jews are survivors unlike all the other contemporary religions and national groups of the time.

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Does anyone think there was a great deliverance of the Hebrews from Egyptian captivity?

by humbled in

moshe

the manna story- and their clothes didn't wear out, either. More good supernatural stuff to make all the other nation's gods seem puny by comparison.

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Rutherford's Death Certificate

by Bangalore in

rutherford's death certificate.. .

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bangalore.

moshe

Editor, not a minister= the truth.

I have a feeling that their is no public record in the WT that he knocked on any strangers door to offer them the chance to buy a WT publication.

Renal failure causes some mental confusion and agitation, then you rapidly go into a coma and die. I see he had surgery about 3 months before he died. He likely spend those last 3 months wearing a dirty diaper.

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I got the dreaded call about the memorial

by thecrushed in

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i haven't been to the meetings in just about a full year and i get a call this morning from my dad inviting me.

his words were full of guilt trip.

he said he would like us to go as a family like i'm breaking it up if i don't go.

moshe

You have to stop them from dominating your life!!

Find a subject that is an instant show stopper for your JW family- for many JWs the subject is retirement or if retired- planning for a future move assisted or a senior living place- Once you find the subject they want to avoid , then bring it up everytime they try and guilt you with WT stuff.They will end the phone conversation in the next minute.

Another great subject is asking for m-O-n-E-y- $$$ , that's right, even if you don't need it ask for HELP- everytime the MiL gets in your business ask for money- car repairs--iphone cell bill, rent money, car payment, money for your kids education fund, don't be shy- stick that hand out. JWs are extremely cheap- I almost guarantee that their subconsious mind will quickly make the connection--ie, talk about going to the meetings or assemblies = those kids will ask for OUR money .

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Suspected Jehovah's Witnesses attacked by pitbull in the preaching work

by cedars in

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtrdafq0xac.

i guess this sort of thing is bound to happen, even though the society implies that angels are out there protecting jehovah's witnesses from harm.. interestingly, it wasn't an angel who came to the rescue, but a "worldly" bystander with his gun.. .

cedars.

moshe

I remember a similar situation with me about 35 years ago-- but it was a small yap-yap dog that darted out from the open door, bit me on the ankle and just as fast, went back into he house. I exclaimed to the householder- your dog just bit me!! She nonchalantly reliped, " I didn't see anything" and with a wry smirk, she bid me adieu and closed the door. I wonder how she trained her dog to do that trick.

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Do you think Jesus WANTED to be turned into a religion?

by humbled in

stuff that has happened to me and people of other religions that i've met and read about--it makes me wonder if the caretakers of "holy writings" haven't bent us with their theology and pedantry.. i don't think jesus wanted us to make a religion.. he offered an experience of faith that was first and foremost an invitation.

the gospels--even if half diluted with error can't dispel the experiences we feel if we accept these words at face value: john 7:17-18.. i can't stay on- going to doctors today.. thanks.

maeve.

moshe

Jesus became a BRAND- he makes everything better, chases the gloomy days away and makes the boo boos get better.

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I got the dreaded call about the memorial

by thecrushed in

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friends

i haven't been to the meetings in just about a full year and i get a call this morning from my dad inviting me.

his words were full of guilt trip.

he said he would like us to go as a family like i'm breaking it up if i don't go.

moshe

To thine own self be true-

When you have JW relatives, it's hard to put off the final showdown at the OK Corral, forever-- which is what most faders hope to accomplish. Just wishful thinking, IMO.

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